2014 Camaro Z/28 pricing announced at $75,000 - Page 39 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Novie LE · 01-05-2014, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Please forgive me...it's the company I keep...

Did you just call your team fools? Or did the tittle of this thread confirm that? Good night.

Z/284ever · 01-05-2014, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Novie LE

Read please just read. I am talking about a gm factory 1le with a ls7 not a side project. For gm to change NOTHING on the 1le except for the ls3 to ls7 swap was said to be a 60k car. I am questioning how in the world switching to a ls7 costs 30k plus. Keep inimd everything ls3 related would be out and never installed.

Apparently, you are paying for the LS7 and the LS3.

ShnOmac · 01-05-2014, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Twisty

Ls7 = ~ $14,000
Dry Sump System = ~ $4,000

I don't recall anyone mentioning the dry sump system, just throwing that out there. TL;DR

Also.....

LS7 crate engine does not include:

injector wiring harness
dry sump oil lines
dry sump tank
engine beauty cover
engine processor
air filter/air box
accessories or accessory drive

More parts that would have to be validated!

2cnd chance · 01-05-2014, 07:15 PM

Time to get back on topic!

$75,000 for a Camaro??? This is not like "any" Camaro we've ever seen. It is wayyyy over the top for a Camaro. CCB brakes, really? Hand built 427, really? Dry sump, really? Real Aero, really? DSSV Shocks, really? And on and on. Hence the price. It's much much more than any Camaro before it.

LOWDOWN · 01-05-2014, 07:15 PM

Unique exhaust manifolds
Engine upgrade with more torque to carry more weight
...and a few dozen other items...

Zfatuated · 01-05-2014, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

When we are finished with the car!!!!!

(sorry - but think about it - if we were done and had them - don't you think we'd have shared them? ...)

Wow! Wasn't expecting to read that! Made my night Scott. I figured everything was wrapped up and in the can. You guys are awesome. Well...more awesome

LOWDOWN · 01-05-2014, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Novie LE

Read please just read. I am talking about a gm factory 1le with a ls7 not a side project. For gm to change NOTHING on the 1le except for the ls3 to ls7 swap was said to be a 60k car. I am questioning how in the world switching to a ls7 costs 30k plus. Keep inimd everything ls3 related would be out and never installed.

pm sent...and a "go forth and multiply" response.

Since I'm an unemployed doctor, with no patience, you must be an unemployed school teacher...with absolutely NO CLASS.

Goodnight Dick, indeed...

Zfatuated · 01-05-2014, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Also.....

LS7 crate engine does not include:

injector wiring harness
dry sump oil lines
dry sump tank
engine beauty cover
engine processor
air filter/air box
accessories or accessory drive

More parts that would have to be validated!

Those of us who have actually built track cars with our own hands need no explanation. Those who have not will never understand. Best to wish some people the best of luck and encourage them to seek greener pastures

Angrybird 12 · 01-05-2014, 07:28 PM

I think Novie needs to take his 1LE and build it with the LS7 and all needed accessories then take it to the EPA and get it certified to sell in all 50 states. Then see if he can make money selling them for less than $60k.

Bad@ssCamaro · 01-05-2014, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Novie LE

Useless post. Why can't you just answer it? Simple yes or no. Good night Dick? You are adorable when you make a fool of yourself.

The only fool here is you, apparently you haven't been involved on this forum long enough to understand all the workings into developing a car. You're stuck with this conspiracy theory that GM is trying to screw you and everyone else over. You have failed to read over and over all the pertinent information to make a wise decision, yet you insist on being stubborn and stuck on YOUR perspective.

You're not the only one who wishes that GM had made the 1LE with the LS7. You're butthurt about the Z/28. Nothing can be done about it, now get over it and move on.

Padre · 01-05-2014, 08:02 PM

This thread delivers!

Padre

*mlee* · 01-05-2014, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Padre

This thread delivers!

Padre

Yes, I quietly subscribed to it a few minutes ago.

fbodfather · 01-05-2014, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by matt55

Thank you for taking time out of your day to talk down to me for asking a valid question.
So <$7000 for motor and > $13000 per car for electronic's and testing (to come up with a $55-60k ls7 1le. )
I still don't get it .

I'm sorry - didn't mean to talk down to you - it was meant at a few people who continually ignore the points made by Number 3 and "Lowdown" -- both of these gentlemen have been in the industry for many years - and they've earned the right to be respected and believed.

This thread gets tiring after a while because we have to keep repeating ourselves.

fbodfather · 01-05-2014, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Novie LE

Read please just read. I am talking about a gm factory 1le with a ls7 not a side project. For gm to change NOTHING on the 1le except for the ls3 to ls7 swap was said to be a 60k car. I am questioning how in the world switching to a ls7 costs 30k plus. Keep inimd everything ls3 related would be out and never installed.

OK - perhaps this will help you to get where we're coming from.

You can pull the LS3 out of your Camaro - and you can 'drop' the LS7 in.........

It will sit there and it will not run - because there are not electronics to make it run. There is much more to pulling an engine (today) and putting another in - it's no longer 'plug and play' -- the COSTS to do the software and hardware changes are substantial - both in terms of personnel costs and that of tooling. Good example: getting proper 'throttle tip-in' costs a fortune alone - and requires thousands of hours of testing -

I hope that makes more sense to you.

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