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Old 02-03-2009, 12:20 PM   #533
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closer curb weight, all in all, similar straight line performance
At a cheaper price.
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:44 PM   #534
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At a cheaper price.
Right.


We'll see, if you notice the $$ on the Stang they tested with all shiny's was over the MSRP of the Camaro.


Thats without all the new fancy equipment which its rumored to have.
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:52 PM   #535
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Closer in curb weight? How do you figure? The Mustang will still have at least a 300lb advantage.
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:03 PM   #536
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Right.


We'll see, if you notice the $$ on the Stang they tested with all shiny's was over the MSRP of the Camaro.


Thats without all the new fancy equipment which its rumored to have.


Exactly.
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Old 02-03-2009, 02:42 PM   #537
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2011 Mustangs will still be solid axle correct?
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Old 02-03-2009, 03:38 PM   #538
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Closer in curb weight? How do you figure? The Mustang will still have at least a 300lb advantage.
again, the mustang crowd fails to make an educated attempt at arguments.


3572 lb . Thats how much this mustang weighs as a 5 speed (hahaha) manual.

Care to guess how much the Camaro weighs? Go ahead, lets get some numbers flying, how much is an SS 6 speed?


Then for the 2011 stang, go ahead and ad weight for safety equipment which they dont have, internals, and (god forbid) we might even think about factoring in the weight from an Independant Rear suspension...


At least 300 my ass.
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Old 02-03-2009, 03:42 PM   #539
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the 3.5 Ecoboost is lighter than the 4.6 V8
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:02 PM   #540
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the 3.5 Ecoboost is lighter than the 4.6 V8
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:13 PM   #541
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Proof?
"The 3.5L saves over 150 lbs. compared to the 4.6L V-8"

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The first EcoBoost engine out of the gate is the 340hp 3.5L V-6, This will be the optional engine in the Lincoln MKS starting in 2009 in place of a V-8. Besides having higher specific efficiency than a larger normally aspirated engine, the smaller EcoBoost units also save weight and size. The 3.5L saves over 150 lbs. compared to the 4.6L V-8 also helping contribute to fuel efficiency savings of up to 20%. Following the MKS with EcoBoost will be the Ford Flex and the new Explorer based on the Explorer America concept. The new SUV is expected to use GDTI engines exclusively, with a 275hp 2.0L four as the base engine and the 3.5L six as the option. Ford is by no means the first to do this, with Volkswagen pushing the tech for several years already on their TSI and TFSI engines. aMazda and GM also use the same principle. Ford really wants to make it mainstream, however, with over half a million EcoBoost engines annually within five years. Read more about EcoBoost over at AutoblogGreen.
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:27 PM   #542
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I must admit I am a little surprised.
3.73 gears
0-60 4.9sec
.95gs!! of lateral acceleration
60-0 in only 108ft.
3572lb curb weight

Though to get this type of performance out of the mustang, the price gap is virtually non-existant comparing the camaro. What do you guys think??
The suspension I'm sure helps, but those 3.73 gears are a biggie. The 3.45 gears in the Camaro will slow it down some.
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"The 3.5L saves over 150 lbs. compared to the 4.6L V-8"

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how much torque does the engine make
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how much torque does the engine make
between 340 and 400. hp can be 340-415
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it makes more power in rwd applications like the mustang and F150. right now its only in fwd/awd cars
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how much does it make in the MK
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