GMPP headers, intake, catback??

[56chevywagon]

Originally Posted by 56chevywagon

So, my question is; has anybody gotten confirmation from their dealer on these options? I have asked mine and they still tell me that they are not in their system under the order process (I assume that is the Workbench).

So I guess nobody knows if these are available to add to your Camaro orders yet? Dealers please chime in if you have any info. Thanks

[radz28]

Originally Posted by 56chevywagon

My guesses on HP would be about:
Headers - 15hp
Exhaust - 5-10hp
CAI - 3-5hp

All three together - 25-30hp

I'm thinking along these lines too. I might add a few more for the CAI and a little less for the shorties, but I think this will be the ball park. If you throw in a good dyno' tune, you could probably get another ten-or-so horse, but there goes another $500. The nice thing is, you won't have warranty concerns, emissions concerns, and quality concerns. I'm not dead-sold on the CAI yet (I'd like to see it in person) but I think I'm sold on the shorties for sure. I might wait for the exhaust and see what the aftermarket comes out with because these prices are pretty steep. But if they include installation, that makes the $$$ look a little more worth it, although I'd prefer to save the money and do it myself.

There is going to be a good amount of power left on the table though regarding the shorties. However, there are a number of other things to consider, like fitment, quality, emissions, etc. It's your money though

[RS/SSYellowJacket]

Yes about 30 hp possible for all three. Here is the deal If you have them put on go have the car tuned. Also we have found that the factory sparkplugs are a heat range too high so try one step cooler if you live in a typically hot climate. This is just a suggestion on the plugs. It worked for me to the tune of 8 HP on the dyno on an avg of 5 pulls.

I have seen people do all the above and only gain 10-15 hp because they needed a tune. Remember climate and altitude etc.... affect your cars performance and effeciency so anytime you make a bunch of changes do some tuning. Just a suggestion but a good tuner makes all the difference!!!

[Mr Twisty]

If I was keeping the car I would ONLY get SS headers. Remember too in fitment, some MFG's consider 'too close' as good enough. You get what you pay for.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

If I was keeping the car I would ONLY get SS headers. Remember too in fitment, some MFG's consider 'too close' as good enough. You get what you pay for.

So true. It's not often, but sometimes you can get a good deal on a great product, but that seems to not be the norm'.

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

If I was keeping the car I would ONLY get SS headers. Remember too in fitment, some MFG's consider 'too close' as good enough. You get what you pay for.

thats not always true. there are plenty of times where I have found that I could get the same for less.

[BowtieGuy]

Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

For things like cold air intakes, exhaust systems that retain factory emissions, wheels and tires, and other such bolt ons, the obligation of proof is on the dealership and 99 out of 100, there is no link.

Cold air intakes, no big deal. Most exhaust systems don't retain factory emissions whether they say so or not. It just takes time for the DTC to set. If you add wheels and tires and now your speedometer is off (because most people don't calibrate that) that won't be covered. When there is a problem, it is normally pretty obvious where the fault is. I'm not saying every time the fault is 100% with the customer, but when there is a link, it is obvious. It occurs more often than you think.

[Edrock]

Originally Posted by kylepo

Im sorry but you do have to show proof that the after market part caused the other part to fail. If someone used a aftermarket oil filter and the engine blew up do you loose you warranty because it was the aftermarket filters fault?

Actually, I believe that would certainly happen if it were me in the situation (with my luck). I can easily see a dealership approaching me with that nice tid bit of information along with the bad news. Not that it definitely would BUT, the mere possibility/likelyhood that it could/would is enough for me to stick with the dealer options until my warranty expires years later. I absolutely do not want to take the chance of getting into a pissing battle with my dealer over something like that and have to deal with the headache of it all. No sir. Life is way too short for that. Dealer purchased and installed performance parts for me. Thank you very much!!

Whoever said "you pay to play" hit the nail on the head.

[56chevywagon]

For anyone that is worried about warranty issues with aftermarket parts, refer to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Here is the Wikipedia link but I'm sure you can find more "legal" based links about it if you look.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act

Here is a different link to the Federal Trade Commision

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/business/adv/bus01.shtm

[KILLER74Z28]

The amount of HP you gain from these bolt-ons will greatly depend on how well the Camaro's stock parts performed. The better the calibration of tune and parts the less HP gain you will see. For example, I read and viewed an article where a GTO gained 40 HP just from an FIPK from K&N.

And your warranty cannot be voided from a FIPK, headers, and/or cat back exhaust systems. As well as, if you the owner installs them. That would be like GM saying your warranty is void unless you only use AC Delco oil filters and GM istalls them for you. Now, N2O, cams, heads, electronic tunes, ect can/will void your factory warranty if caught. Furthermore, most aftermarket companies inform you if instalation of thier part will void your factoy warranty.

[ArcAngel]

i wonder if there is any info on the G8 with mods and what kind of hp numbers

[nester7929]

K&N's Airchargers put out 10-15 hp on the Mustang GT and the Challenger SRT-8, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect similar gains from the Camaro.

I'm going aftermarket. Way more bang for the buck, and what I'm getting (CAI, long tubes, exhaust) isn't likely to malfunction.

[BowtieGuy]

Originally Posted by KILLER74Z28

And your warranty cannot be voided from a FIPK, headers, and/or cat back exhaust systems. As well as, if you the owner installs them. That would be like GM saying your warranty is void unless you only use AC Delco oil filters and GM istalls them for you. Now, N2O, cams, heads, electronic tunes, ect can/will void your factory warranty if caught. Furthermore, most aftermarket companies inform you if instalation of thier part will void your factoy warranty.

They can void if they cause a problem. Even the oil filter. Period. I don't care if it's an aftermarket valve stem cap. If it causes a problem, I shouldn't have to fix it. Dammit.

[mike@newera]

I would bet the intake gives 7-9 rwhp, the shorty headers give 6-8 rwhp, and the exhaust is 2-3 rwhp . Then a custom dyno tune will net you more than all of the above, I've seen it for years on all of the new GM cars, especially when you mod them, the performance upgrades generally detune the PCM which does not provide the real power gain from the performance parts installed, because the addiaional airflow causes timing to be pulled, and the AFR to richen up a bit losing power with your stock tune.