04-20-2011, 10:52 AM | #43 |
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Please please don't take this the wrong way, any of you guys that want a convertable with an automatic transmission, but I'm curious as to why you want a ZL1 rather then an SS convertable with an automatic if you want things like a convertable and auto transmission. The ZL1 is supposed to be the all out, ballz to the wall performance camaro, right? And while I understand the desire for an auto, especially since they have come a long way and ARE very good with performance now, why would you want to spend the money for all the extra power if your just gonna be cruising with the top down with an auto transmission? For the top performance camaro, personally I'd like the manual to feel more in tune with the car, and to have all that control over the car, and the weight advantage and stability of a solid roof. Maybe I'm missing something. Again, I don't mean to offend anyone that wants a convertable ZL1 with an auto, I'm just curious
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04-20-2011, 11:26 AM | #44 | |
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Also, the GT500 is available as a convertible and it is the main competition for the ZL1. Chevrolet will likely lose sales to the GT500 if the ZL1 is not available as a convertible. |
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04-20-2011, 01:07 PM | #45 |
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The SLP modded convertible I saw the other day was an auto. The owner said the paddle shifters wouldn't let him get out of 1st as quick as he liked, so in the future, he would only be going manual.
Honestly, I wasn't thinking about handling & the rigidity of the frame when I said a hardtop 'vert would be nice, I was just thinking about the cool factor. You do have a point there I suppose, 10forty2. I wonder how a hardtop convertible arrangement would affect cabin noise levels.
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04-20-2011, 02:28 PM | #47 | |
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Could it be the ZL1 is way under tuned? What kind of SC is on it, capacity, how much boost? Also, noticing the RPM guage on the ZL1 max'd at 7k, on the SS it's 9k. Anyone know anything about that? Hey, never know, maybe it's GM's way of assuring they don't have to honour warranties. Give people a vehicle that's way undertuned, and all wrong intake / exhaust setups, everyone will do mods to beat Challengers and Mustangs, and then GM will say, we don't honour warranties for mod'd vehicles. Whatcha' think?
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04-21-2011, 12:56 PM | #48 |
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Anyone else not liking how the mph gauge offset of the numbers change?
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04-21-2011, 01:35 PM | #49 |
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damn nice i like the new gauges
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If I was wishing for this or that, it would be a sleeper version. An SS with the engine, drive train and supension up grades without the hood and big spoiler. Just the wheels and the front change would be enough of a flag for the trained eye. Under the radar so to speak... |
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04-21-2011, 06:57 PM | #51 | |
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So, not sure why anyone would pay the huge price tag for this car, except of course to have a tag on the back that says ZL1 and keep it stored in the garage for 25yrs., but other than that I don't really get it. Personally, I'd go to SLP if I wanted something with a label on it to justify paying all that extra cash.
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04-21-2011, 08:44 PM | #52 | |
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As, for value of a vehicle. Well, if some people want to keep their Camaro in the garage cause' it's going to be worth something in 25yrs. well, that's their perogative. I want to enjoy driving the shit out of mine, leaving ZL1's in the dust. Besides, like you in 25yrs. if I can lift my feet off the ground I'll be good. :-) Quote:
I doubt very much the parts GM will put on the ZL1 will match the quality of the aftermarket parts installed in my SS or the SLP version of the ZL1. My point is if I were to dish out $85k (CDN) to start, (which I most likely will when I'm done my SS) I'll smoke the ZL1 easily, unless of course you dump another $25k in mods on the ZL1. And, it will look a whole lot nicer too. ie - ProCharger or Maggie SC vs the one in the ZL1 (what is it again????) Another point, my SS is already equipped with 550hp., top notch suspension, and I didn't pay anywhere near $85k. And, no SC yet. Now do you get what I'm saying? I'm talking "value" for money. I'm sure when the pro's get their hands on a ZL1 and disect it you'll see many posts on here about how much "more" work the vehicle will need to be up to spec. with some of the 2010 SS's out there "today".
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And if you really think your 550hp + suspension could match the ZL1 you might aswell wake up from that sleep of yours. your 550hp SS wont be as reilable as the ZL1 nor will your suspension be on the same par as the MRS of the ZL1. Get real buddy you nor anybody else knows what the ZL1 can do so internet racing aint gona get you any further.
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