Which Oil

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by whitetiger777

Alright I did a search and got to many hits. It's time for my first oil change and my question is in brands. In my previous cars I ran Eneos and Mobile 1. I've heard of Royal Purple. Obviously these were Jap cars, but what is the best oil for this car?

Originally Posted by snkeyes069

Any oil that meets the dexos1 specs will work. http://www.gmdexos.com/licensedbrands.html

If your engine fails and GM traces the problem to non-dexos1 oil, they may not honor your warranty.

bull shit!..WHY DO YOU SAY THAT? he has a 2010 v-6 engine that doesn't "require" dexos,so (w.t.f!) are you talking about?..all he has to do,is "keep" his receipts in case of engine failure,and he's covered!..you know this, so why spread this "nonsense!..hell ya scarin' the poor guy!

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by NavyDood

Pennzoil must have upped their game. I would never run that water either.

actually pennzoil "is a superior oil because the "crude" it is refined from comes from the oil fields in pennsylvania,which are known to contain "more" parrafin
in it! (wax) this additional "parrafin" in the base "crude" stock is "slipperier"
than any other base crude stock,and as a result the oil "lubricates" better in the engine,so general wear is reduced,and heat is also reduced over time!..of course,i am referring to "conventional" oils.other 'brands" that come to mind that have additional "parrafin" in them,and are refined from pennsylvania base crude are,wolf's head,.quaker state,and amalie. just sayin!

[cybergrayls3]

I wasn't bashing Mobil 1 in anyway...like I said thats what I use in my SS. But I have been a member on bobistheoilguy and have done tons of reading and seen hundreds of oil analysis on there to know better that Pennzoil is not crap by any means. It earned a bad rep. Back in the day. I'm a BMW mechanic and BMW recommends castrol..I have seen cars come in with blown head gaskets and the motor is full of sludge...is the castrol to blame? Absolutely not,its the blown head gasket and the moron who drove it overheating for 20 miles that's responsible....there are many things that can cause sludge...the first thing people ask is what oil was in it?....9 times out of 10 the oil had nothing to do with it...maybe they went 30k miles between oil changes...who knows? I do know that Shell owns Pennzoil and Quaker state...if you look on the back of the bottle you will see SOPUS (shell oil products united states)...Im not sure how Pennzoil was 40 years ago, but I do know that since shell took over the products are excellent. I also know that ferrari exclusively recommends shell oils so I'm assuming they know a thing or two about oil. Okay well anyways I apologize for the long drawn out post...in my humble opinion just run any of the current big name oil brands that meet the proper spec. For your car and you won't have any problems! I will catch you guys later I have some pirelli's to burn off the camaro!

[jehartley]

Originally Posted by jmaryt

actually pennzoil "is a superior oil because the "crude" it is refined from comes from the oil fields in pennsylvania,which are known to contain "more" parrafin
in it! (wax) this additional "parrafin" in the base "crude" stock is "slipperier"
than any other base crude stock,and as a result the oil "lubricates" better in the engine,so general wear is reduced,and heat is also reduced over time!..of course,i am referring to "conventional" oils.other 'brands" that come to mind that have additional "parrafin" in them,and are refined from pennsylvania base crude are,wolf's head,.quaker state,and amalie. just sayin!

Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about.

[NavyDood]

Originally Posted by PAUL SS

I just did my first oil change with Amsoil 5w30 and a Wix filter. Amsoil is now dexos1 certified, its on the label and it even says it replaces the GM oil referenced in the owners manual. Amsoil is a pure synthetic oil, the best you can buy.

Why didn't you go with the Amsoil Ea15K50 oil filter to get the best of both worlds, or did you get the Amsoil locally?

Originally Posted by jmaryt

actually pennzoil "is a superior oil because the "crude" it is refined from comes from the oil fields in pennsylvania,which are known to contain "more" parrafin
in it! (wax) this additional "parrafin" in the base "crude" stock is "slipperier"
than any other base crude stock,and as a result the oil "lubricates" better in the engine,so general wear is reduced,and heat is also reduced over time!..of course,i am referring to "conventional" oils.other 'brands" that come to mind that have additional "parrafin" in them,and are refined from pennsylvania base crude are,wolf's head,.quaker state,and amalie. just sayin!

Sorta Kinda. All dino and Group III oil bases have paraffin in them. Without the paraffin you would not have base oil to begin with. For Group III oils, the idea is to remove the paraffin and add much better additives to get a much better oil. Group III oils have very very little paraffin in them, usually in the 3% range to make room for much better additives. When you are talking about a Group I or Group II there is usually a much higher paraffin content which is worse, not better. The paraffin can fall out of suspension.

When using Paraffin and oil in the same sentence, it is not the same as paraffin like in candle wax. It is just a common name for a saturated hydrocarbon chain.

[Blueovalman]

Originally Posted by Badger

...to that last sentence....and as far as who recommends what..I remember a Ford crown Vic Police interceptor package we got one time I went to fuel it up and on the inside of the gas compartment door there was a nice little sticker that read..."Ford motor Co. recommends the use of BP (British Petroleum) products in their vehicles"..... Really?? I wonder how much BP paid to get those stickers put on there...I almost switched my personal vehicle to BP products....NOT...on a side note..anyone else ever see a sticker like that on a Ford?? I don't know if the dealership did it or what

There is a big difference here between Ford and GM.
Depends on how you talk to though because all the Ford guys and
Ford Mustang enthusiasts I have met and talked to over the years
said they completely boycott all BP's products aspecially after the
"BP oil spill". I never used BP products in my Ford Mustang and never cared to really.
As far as gasoline go's I always use Chevron or Texaco gasoline
because it works very well in my Ford Mustang.
I belive that GM engineering did alot of research and testing of different
brands of motor oils before they decided that Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil
was the best motor oil to use in their engines.I honestly don't think it
is a money game GM engineering wouldn't recommend using Mobil 1
synthetic motor oil in their engines if it didn't perform top notch
in GM engines.I have been running Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil and
a Mobil 1 oil filter in my Ford Mustang for sixteen years now and
I am still running my original engine and it still runs excellent since the
day I purchased my Ford Mustang brand new that tells me that
Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil is one of the highest quality synthetic
motor oils on the market today.

[PAUL SS]

NavyDood, I got the Amsoil locally and that dealer carried the Wix filters which I hear are pretty good filters themselves.

[Blueovalman]

Originally Posted by PAUL SS

NavyDood, I got the Amsoil locally and that dealer carried the Wix filters which I hear are pretty good filters themselves.

I would only use oil filters that use quality synthetic media in their oil filters.I recommend using Mobil 1 oil filters because they only use high quality synthetic media in their oil filters.

[jehartley]

Originally Posted by Blueovalman

I would only use oil filters that use quality synthetic media in their oil filters.I recommend using Mobil 1 oil filters because they only use high quality synthetic media in their oil filters.

So are Amsoil and Royal Purple filters.

[Blueovalman]

Originally Posted by jehartley

So are Amsoil and Royal Purple filters.

So are K&N oil filters.

[cybergrayls3]

Originally Posted by Blueovalman

So are K&N oil filters.

Hey buddy...just out of curiosity...how much do you pay for k&n oil filters...I know on my street bike I pay like 14 bucks for a k&n oil filter....are they any cheaper for the car filters?

[Blueovalman]

Originally Posted by cybergrayls3

Hey buddy...just out of curiosity...how much do you pay for k&n oil filters...I know on my street bike I pay like 14 bucks for a k&n oil filter....are they any cheaper for the car filters?

Actually the K&N oil filters are the same oil filter as the Mobil 1 oil filters
just renamed.They are both produced by the company Champion Labs.
In the past I have seen K&N oil filters sell for fiveteen and sixteen dollars
each and the Mobil 1 oil filters have the same internals and synthetic media and they are about three or four dollars on average cheaper in most auto
parts stores I have been to. They are both excellent choices but,the
K&N oil filters have a one inch nut on the outer case so,they can be
removed in slightly less time.For the money I would start using Mobil 1
oil filters though and Mobil 1 oil filters can be purchased in most all
auto parts stores in your area.

[Badger]

Originally Posted by Blueovalman

There is a big difference here between Ford and GM.
Depends on how you talk to though because all the Ford guys and
Ford Mustang enthusiasts I have met and talked to over the years
said they completely boycott all BP's products aspecially after the
"BP oil spill". I never used BP products in my Ford Mustang and never cared to really.
As far as gasoline go's I always use Chevron or Texaco gasoline
because it works very well in my Ford Mustang.
I belive that GM engineering did alot of research and testing of different
brands of motor oils before they decided that Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil
was the best motor oil to use in their engines.I honestly don't think it
is a money game GM engineering wouldn't recommend using Mobil 1
synthetic motor oil in their engines if it didn't perform top notch
in GM engines.I have been running Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil and
a Mobil 1 oil filter in my Ford Mustang for sixteen years now and
I am still running my original engine and it still runs excellent since the
day I purchased my Ford Mustang brand new that tells me that
Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil is one of the highest quality synthetic
motor oils on the market today.

Right on man!...Keep drinking the Koolaid...

[Blueovalman]

Originally Posted by Badger

Right on man!...Keep drinking the Koolaid...

Lay the crack pipe down and walk away!
Really though you are starting to reminding me of Ford Mustang enthusiasts if anything and they are the people I am trying to get away from.