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Old 07-18-2011, 09:49 AM   #43
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To echo above, the "Bose" thing is an error, its definitely BA.

Also regarding BOSE home theater, as someone who installs HT stuff on the side I will say this. BOSE has a place out there and I have found myself installing it and even recommending it on occasion. Why? Because its isn't that bad, and sounds good enough for most people to think its great. The reason I allow this to happen is because its stupid proof. Its a system I can install for someone, set up, and never have to deal with again. It will always sound good/the same, it is very simple to operate, etc. To many people (including someone who has to deal with 400 phonecalls by someone too clueless to understand when you tell them what buttons to press on their receiver) that is worth the price of admission. I feel bad charging people (bc most of the work I do is for friends or friends of friends, family etc) when I have to go to their house and press 2 buttons to fix something so I'm there for all of 30 seconds. That never happens with a BOSE system.

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I disagree about monster. They're damn good cables. I have one for my les Paul guitar and you can hear the difference between that and some cheaper cable. I have a monster hdmi and I don't have probs with it either.
I'll give you that for analog cables, especially for music equipment, good cables are very important. But Monster will charge you 3 times as much for a cable you can get the equivalent of from many online vendors.

Worse though is their HDMI cables. Yes it works great, except for the fact that you probably spent about $80 on a cable you can get at a place like firefold.com or monoprice.com for under $10. HDMI carries a digital signal, and it either works or it doesn't. There is no "better picture and sound" to be had with better cables. Thats the scam of Monster.
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:14 AM   #44
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The BOSE that was in my 04' CTS was not too impressive. Better than the BA Premium i have now but, marginally. Now if i could only find a way to slap my Klipsch home theatre system in the Camaro all would be good.

I second that. Nothing like my Klipsch Quintet system
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:19 AM   #45
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I second that. Bose is the ultimate in over-priced garbage aimed at rich people who think high price = high quality.


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Old 07-18-2011, 10:22 AM   #46
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I disagree about monster. They're damn good cables. I have one for my les Paul guitar and you can hear the difference between that and some cheaper cable. I have a monster hdmi and I don't have probs with it either.

The former may be true, but the latter is poo poo. Your 1's and 0's are not any better than the 1's and 0's with a cheaper wire period. Either you get the picture and sound or you don't.
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Old 07-18-2011, 11:00 AM   #47
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I second that. Bose is the ultimate in over-priced garbage aimed at rich people who think high price = high quality.
You mean it DOESN'T????
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Old 07-18-2011, 11:07 AM   #48
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Doesn't Steve at ******** or something like that here on the forums have a new amp/sub configuration that makes the BA's rock? I thought I read his amp has good crossovers in it that keeps from blowing up the BA's and turns off the center channel.
Yes, I have his system. It adds a 5 channel amp and a 12 inch sub. It sounds good to my old ears.
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Old 07-18-2011, 12:05 PM   #49
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I have to agree with both of you .. This is my Marantz & Klipsch system, Now if I could find away to fit in my New Camaro I would be in paridise..

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Old 07-18-2011, 03:30 PM   #50
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So was it confirmed that the "Bose replacement speakers" that the OP was talking about were actually BA speakers? My guess is that the service writer made a mistake since Camaros used to come with Bose-branded equipment.

Regarding Bose overall, audiophiles will say what they will about the quality and value of Bose products. Especially in automobiles, it's really tough to judge the quality of a brand. It's likely that GM paid more for the rights to use the Bose name than they actually spent designing the systems for various vehicles.

I'm neither a fan nor an opponent of Bose. I think they operate in a market for "established" buyers looking for a well-done system with a common look/feel, great customer service. The kind of people that worry about the look of audio equipment relative to their interior spaces (the benefit of small, minimally-branded and minimally-intrusive pieces). The kind of people that want full audio ranges, but plasticky systems from Sony and Yamaha, i.e. "home theater in a box" just won't do. Even if the sound quality from Bose isn't the best, it's not terrible, and the quality and feel of their components is quite nice. It's literally the Apple of the audio world. There are those buyers that want a neat little package regardless of its cost. It levels their playing field, and keeps them from having to become an audiophile just to pick out equipment (who has time for that?) or having seriously invasive equipment in their pristine living rooms.

Audio quality is one of those subjective things. There is absolute crap out there, and most people can tell you that it sounds bad. But when you get into decent-upper end equipment, it's all capable of producing high power sounds with high capability throughout the audible spectrum and at that point, it becomes about taste.

For instance, I personally love Martin Logan's electrostatic speakers. The ones I like run about $2,500 each. They're fantastically bright sounding, crisp to the point of almost being too sharp. And then....I've had people tell me they absolutely suck. Conversely, I've had someone crow to me about MK (Miller-Kreisel, no longer sold in the US) and how awesome they are. Based on their price point and heritage, they should be quite good pieces, but the sound is dead to me. Just like McIntosh amps over high priced digital receivers--At that price, I just can't tell the difference. But then I'm not an audiophile...I just like what I like.

If you had asked me when I was 16 about what the best sounding car stereo was, I'd have told you it was the factory Delco system in my mom's 1990 Chevy Lumina. It had 6x9's opening into the trunk, so it literally sounded like there was a 10" sub back there, and I loved it because all I cared about was bass. A theoretically nicer system in my buddy's Maxima couldn't touch it in terms of low frequencies. In retrospect, both systems were crap, but that's just an example to show how there is such disparity and preference in both perceived "high quality" sound and equipment.
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Old 09-12-2023, 03:42 PM   #51
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I was thinking Bose, but after reading some opinions i'm going to shop around further.
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Old 09-12-2023, 05:33 PM   #52
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Holy thread resurrection! There's nothing wrong with Bose speakers for a car. If you think your an audiophile and want to compare speakers, do it in a soundproof room, not rolling down the highway, in your Camaro, with your No Weeds in open header mode, and then get on the internet and bitch about sound quality in your car.
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Old 09-12-2023, 06:20 PM   #53
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Holy thread resurrection! There's nothing wrong with Bose speakers for a car. If you think your an audiophile and want to compare speakers, do it in a soundproof room, not rolling down the highway, in your Camaro, with your No Weeds in open header mode, and then get on the internet and bitch about sound quality in your car.
well damn....there goes my rant...
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Old 09-12-2023, 07:51 PM   #54
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Holy thread resurrection! There's nothing wrong with Bose speakers for a car. If you think your an audiophile and want to compare speakers, do it in a soundproof room, not rolling down the highway, in your Camaro, with your No Weeds in open header mode, and then get on the internet and bitch about sound quality in your car.
"Holy thread resurrection" Cracked me up
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Old 09-12-2023, 08:40 PM   #55
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I've had pretty good luck with Bose products. They make a LOT of stuff, so I'm sure they have some hits and some misses. I also agree that there are other manufacturers that make better components for certain applications. What really matters is how it sounds to YOU.

Although the factory Boston Acoustics setup in my 2014 coupe was just okay, the (almost same?) system with the factory sub in my 2014 vert sounds much much better to me.
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Old 09-12-2023, 08:54 PM   #56
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This little Bluetooth speaker kicks azz. For what that's worth. Yeah, hit & miss I guess.

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