Is it true Camaro LT has been reassessed to have 350HP

[HumanWiki]

I had some dipshit kid who is loosely friends with my girlfriend's ex-gf try to talk up his Jeep Wrangler to me in how it's just about as fast as my SS... I tried to be nice about it and being stock I didn't have mods to talk about... He totally lost me though when he talked about how GM cheaped out and didn't even put a chip in the car and that it would have been much fast had they done so..

I haven't seen him since..

[daveagogo1]

Originally Posted by camaroc5

All a V6 needs to kill a STOCK LS3 is some nitrous which has been proven on here by a member who broke into the 11's using just spray, intake, and cat back. Would like to know what the numbers would be with headers, tune etc...pretty much what my car would run if I added nitrous.

If you look at the V8 drag time list..the V6 ran a 11.9something which is not far off (11.4 etc..)from the v8s that are heavily modded with superchargers and what not
Link to video of the v6 run
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147001

While this may be true you missed the entire point of the thread. The question the OP raised was a STOCK V6 rated at 350HP. There isn't one. With enough money and mods you can make a 4 banger crush a stock SS.

Without the addition of turbos or spray no 5th gen V6 is going to beat a stock SS down the 1320. The woman is implying her "chipped" V6 with an exhaust and a CAI would take down his LS3.

[CamaroC-17]

Originally Posted by daveagogo1

While this may be true you missed the entire point of the thread. The question the OP raised was a STOCK V6 rated at 350HP. There isn't one. With enough money and mods you can make a 4 banger crush a stock SS.

Without the addition of turbos or spray no 5th gen V6 is going to beat a stock SS down the 1320. The woman is implying her "chipped" V6 with an exhaust and a CAI would take down his LS3.

I know it was directed at some of the other posts. Just a making a point. if quater mile times matter so much (since we cant use the V6 or v8 power any where else) then having a 22K dollar V6 with 700 bucks invested in nitrous just to race on the strip and beat V8s seems to be...bang for your buck.

[CamaroC-17]

But I aggree. No V6 that has a chip or even full bolt ons will not beat an SS without the help of a Turbo or nitrous...Which since none of us use the full power of our cars when drving on the road and only need the power every once in a while..nitrous seems to be a better choice than turbo. IDK..700 bucks or 7000K for the same performance?

[VR Baron]

With what I have in my sig,and looking at all the results I have seen I'm probably close to 345-350 NET hp. Tops. Stock no way and Frito's are the only chips this car will ever have in it, lol!

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by camaroc5

All a V6 needs to kill a STOCK LS3 is some nitrous which has been proven on here by a member who broke into the 11's using just spray, intake, and cat back. Would like to know what the numbers would be with headers, tune etc...pretty much what my car would run if I added nitrous.

If you look at the V8 drag time list..the V6 ran a 11.9something which is not far off (11.4 etc..)from the v8s that are heavily modded with superchargers and what not
Link to video of the v6 run
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147001

Originally Posted by daveagogo1

While this may be true you missed the entire point of the thread. The question the OP raised was a STOCK V6 rated at 350HP. There isn't one. With enough money and mods you can make a 4 banger crush a stock SS.

Without the addition of turbos or spray no 5th gen V6 is going to beat a stock SS down the 1320. The woman is implying her "chipped" V6 with an exhaust and a CAI would take down his LS3.

All true, but just want to add one more thing to the list. A full bolt-on LLT running E85 will put down about the same RWHP as a stock L99. Give the slightly lower weight of the LT, that makes it pretty much a driver's race. Of course, there are only a few E85 LLTs out there so we have a lot to still learn about them.

[JoshBobGuptaMarley]

It does come down to the driver. I have yet to ever see a guy in his or her ss using that 426. I always pass them on the road. I'm glad I didnt get an ss, I would not be able to control myself, the power must be amazing. If I'm this happy with 323 I can't even imagine 100 more+ upgrades. I have schooled many many people on the camaro since I got one. It's important in life to know what you are talking about. But then at the end of the day it is nothing to tell people your not sure instead of looking like a know it all who really knows nothing.

[usa1camaro1969]

Originally Posted by daveagogo1

Without the addition of turbos or spray no 5th gen V6 is going to beat a stock SS down the 1320.

I'm raising the bullshat flag on that one, especially after looking at some of the times posted on here about the mid 13's(and some are low 14's) some guys are able to accomplish. Before you state if drivers were the same, that's not what you stated and even if they need a fuse pull I don't care, prep your car. I have beat SS's that weren't stock and don't mind saying the driver makes up more than so many bench racers here will admit.

And no, the LLT does not put out 350hp stock, OP, you got punked(by a girl).

[daveagogo1]

Originally Posted by usa1camaro1969

I'm raising the bullshat flag on that one, especially after looking at some of the times posted on here about the mid 13's(and some are low 14's) some guys are able to accomplish. Before you state if drivers were the same, that's not what you stated and even if they need a fuse pull I don't care, prep your car. I have beat SS's that weren't stock and don't mind saying the driver makes up more than so many bench racers here will admit.

And no, the LLT does not put out 350hp stock, OP, you got punked(by a girl).

How can you straight faced call BS when your going off the fast list on this forum that shows a V6 with DR/skinnies, CAI long tubes, tuned with full exhaust at 13.4 versus the worst stock L99 on the same list running 13.1?

Again based off the list you refer to. I stand by my statement. You will need to scroll down to the power adder V6 times to find one that beat a stock SS on this board.

Can a V6 ever beat an SS. Sure why not. Maybe the SS got no traction, maybe the driver fell asleep or had some horrible reaction time. Lot's of variables. But, power for power it ain't gonna happen nor did it happen from that list.

[PercyJWellingtonIII]

The main drawback to the V6 is not the hp rating...those are fine as is. The drawback is the lack of torque. Lets get the torque up closer to the HP rating then we will see some real performance gains. Get it to 300lbs and that would be significant. But it probably won't happen until you start messing with the bore and or stroke of these engines. Compression is already pretty high. They could re cam it but then that would begin to screw up mpgs.

[PercyJWellingtonIII]

Originally Posted by daveagogo1

How can you straight faced call BS when your going off the fast list on this forum that shows a V6 with DR/skinnies, CAI long tubes, tuned with full exhaust at 13.4 versus the worst stock L99 on the same list running 13.1?

Again based off the list you refer to. I stand by my statement. You will need to scroll down to the power adder V6 times to find one that beat a stock SS on this board.

Can a V6 ever beat an SS. Sure why not. Maybe the SS got no traction, maybe the driver fell asleep or had some horrible reaction time. Lot's of variables. But, power for power it ain't gonna happen nor did it happen from that list.

One guy on this site videod hmself turning hi-11s in his v6 without a turbo but using shots of N.O.

[daveagogo1]

Originally Posted by PercyJWellingtonIII

One guy on this site videod hmself turning hi-11s in his v6 without a turbo but using shots of N.O.

Again. he used spray. My statement was you need turbo or spray. This isn't disputed in any fashion.

[usa1camaro1969]

Originally Posted by daveagogo1

How can you straight faced call BS when your going off the fast list on this forum that shows a V6 with DR/skinnies, CAI long tubes, tuned with full exhaust at 13.4 versus the worst stock L99 on the same list running 13.1?

Again based off the list you refer to. I stand by my statement. You will need to scroll down to the power adder V6 times to find one that beat a stock SS on this board.

Can a V6 ever beat an SS. Sure why not. Maybe the SS got no traction, maybe the driver fell asleep or had some horrible reaction time. Lot's of variables. But, power for power it ain't gonna happen nor did it happen from that list.

I guess I can because it was quoted that a v6 Camaro no matter how modded(short of FI) would never beat a stock v8 Camaro. I have. You can look all over the drag section and look at more than bests and see guys asking how to get their's out of the hole and whatever. The list you speak of is the fastest times, not every run makes that list.
In the same statement you make my point. In racing there is no sure thing and his statement went to the fact that there was. Should the v8 beat me stock to stock, yes. Am I getting close enough with my mods to make it interesting, I think I am.
That's how I say it with a straight face.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173301
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170522

[daveagogo1]

Originally Posted by usa1camaro1969

I guess I can because it was quoted that a v6 Camaro no matter how modded(short of FI) would never beat a stock v8 Camaro. I have. You can look all over the drag section and look at more than bests and see guys asking how to get their's out of the hole and whatever. The list you speak of is the fastest times, not every run makes that list.
In the same statement you make my point. In racing there is no sure thing and his statement went to the fact that there was. Should the v8 beat me stock to stock, yes. Am I getting close enough with my mods to make it interesting, I think I am.
That's how I say it with a straight face.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173301
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170522

I must apologize if i hurt yours and i'm guessing i did. Mine sure aren't. The only reason i used the fastest time list is that is exactly what you pointed to when showing a worked over V6 that still didn't beat a bone stock L99 on the same list. Kinda proved my point by pointing to that.

I didn't even mention the list until after you pointed it out. Do you see non turbo or nitrous setup on that list with a better time?