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Old 11-22-2011, 10:27 AM   #43
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Douche off! So who wins this battle between these two highly qualified candidates? It's very close and it might just come down to who's face is more punchable.





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Old 11-22-2011, 10:40 AM   #44
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Douche off! So who wins this battle between these two highly qualified candidates? It's very close and it might just come down to who's face is more punchable.
I say, without question, the sweater vest wins by a TKO.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:19 PM   #45
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Can't remember when any Ford "lasted very long"!....lol.
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Old 11-23-2011, 12:23 AM   #46
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...I don't like that guy.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:53 AM   #47
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does anybody else realize Ford jacked the 4 exhaust tips from the 2012 ZL1 and stuck them on the '13 GT500?

they are Scrambling big time!

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1999[53] 166,915
2000 113,369
2001[54] 169,198
2002[55] 138,356
2003 140,350
2004[56] 129,858
2005 160,975
2006[57] 166,530
2007 134,626
2008[58] 91,251
2009[59] 66,623
2010[60] 73,716

They are selling less than half what they sold in 05 since the Camaro. That's gotta hurt!
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Old 11-23-2011, 09:13 AM   #48
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Did they add anything new to the 2013 ZL1 ? Alot of people here like to say wait for the 2013 ZL1 vs 2013 GT500.
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Old 11-23-2011, 09:23 AM   #49
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Did they add anything new to the 2013 ZL1 ? Alot of people here like to say wait for the 2013 ZL1 vs 2013 GT500.
Besides the convertible, I doubt it. The 2012 is only about a 6 month production run anyway.

My guess is that if you really want to play the waiting game, 2014 will be the year they improve the model.
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Old 11-23-2011, 10:09 AM   #50
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Douche off! So who wins this battle between these two highly qualified candidates? It's very close and it might just come down to who's face is more punchable.





Sweater vest guy wins the biggest loser award!

Nice try though Cars.com guy! That's an election for ya!
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:28 PM   #51
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Lets see that gt 500 on the Nürburgring. Anybody body can make a car go stupid fast in a straight line.
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Old 11-23-2011, 10:52 PM   #52
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The only reason the Camaro doesn't have all the horsepower like the GT500 is because Corvette has to be KING!!! The ZR1 has 600+ hp. No way that Chevy is gonna make a Camaro which cost less than a Corvette and be better. That will NEVER happen. And on the other hand, all that Ford has is their Mustang. They can put all kinds of things in it, because that's all they have. The Ford GT is long gone.
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Old 11-23-2011, 10:54 PM   #53
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Oh and that dumbass in the second video is obviously not very well educated. The LSA in the Camaro is "NOT" the same engine that is in the ZR1 which is the LS9. Stupid uneducated people!!!!!
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Old 11-24-2011, 01:29 AM   #54
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ford knows that they are in hot water with the ZL1 Camaro,so they hurried up and made a GARBAGE can gt500 with 650 horses to compete with the ZL1,but ford shot themselves in the foot by rushing that junk out,because the gt 500 will be old news when the ZL1 finally hits the streets and ppl will buy ZL1s instead of mustanks,i hope Chevy makes a 700 hp Z28 to beat the gt500
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don't know if its a re-post and don't know how to embed it, butt..............www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6qJCvHFblA
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ford knows that they are in hot water with the ZL1 Camaro,so they hurried up and made a GARBAGE can gt500 with 650 horses to compete with the ZL1,but ford shot themselves in the foot by rushing that junk out,because the gt 500 will be old news when the ZL1 finally hits the streets and ppl will buy ZL1s instead of mustanks,i hope Chevy makes a 700 hp Z28 to beat the gt500
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