Mustang gone...whats next?

[K32 Camaro]

Originally Posted by POWERMAN

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Given that you've just tested the Camaro, which now doubt holds its own, I'd suggest you still look around before making your final decision.

I test drove quite a few cars when I was shopping around last year, and found the blind spots around the C-pillars a bit challenging for the Camaro and Challenger.

The Mustang on the other hand I liked in terms of a DD.
Circumstances led to my final purchase..my point being a car's a huge commitment, especially since your going brand new..

While your still shopping around, I suggest you try a stick shift once again..that's what keeps a driver in sync with his car IMO..I learned driving on a manual transmission during my teen years and it was definitely one of the best things I loved about driving..total control over the revs!

All the best and let us know what you decide

You preach a manual and yet you drive a v6 charger that is only available in automatics?

Although I agree you should become savvy with drivng stick, I would never get one for a dd. It's never been 'fun' for me like people claim and it's a waste of time imo when you could be doing something better with that hand. Like feelin up a girl. Haha. (Oh wait, hold on. Let me shift real quick..)

I feel you on the mustang fanboy friends.. That's what everyone in this town drives. I'll tell you what though, it is fun razzing eachother about chevy vs ford. Lots of fun burns.

[L99BEN]

The 5.0 is the faster car, but the Camaro feels faster.

This is true and a stock auto GT is quite a bit faster than an auto stock SS.

Lets break it down:
5.0 stock auto 1/4 avg 12.8-13.0 @ 108-110
200 lbs lighter and much more power to the wheels than the auto SS.

SS stock auto 1/4 avg 13.2-13.7 @ 104-107
The SS auto will need expensive bolt-ons and a good tune to beat a stock auto 5.0.

Ive owned both, here is my assessment:

The Camaro feels stronger down low (2-3k rpms) but not above 60.
The Camaro has better low end torque, seats, stock stereo, more solid feel, and better exterior looks imo.
The auto 5.0 is faster, better cheaper platform for drag racing.
In the end both boring rides in desperate need of a good tune.

If I were to do over I'd go with the 1LE even over my Brembo 5.0 (which is worlds more fun than both the auto SS and auto 5.0).

[DuskSS]

Originally Posted by L99BEN

This is true and a stock auto GT is quite a bit faster than an auto stock SS.

Lets break it down:
5.0 stock auto 1/4 avg 12.8-13.0 @ 108-110
200 lbs lighter and much more power to the wheels than the auto SS.

SS stock auto 1/4 avg 13.2-13.7 @ 104-107
The SS auto will need expensive bolt-ons and a good tune to beat a stock auto 5.0.

Ive owned both, here is my assessment:

The Camaro feels stronger down low (2-3k rpms) but not above 60.
The Camaro has better low end torque, seats, stock stereo, more solid feel, and better exterior looks imo.
The auto 5.0 is faster, better cheaper platform for drag racing.
In the end both boring rides in desperate need of a good tune.

If I were to do over I'd go with the 1LE even over my Brembo 5.0 (which is worlds more fun than both the auto SS and auto 5.0.

Sorry beg to differ on the seats and stereo
The jbl is so far out of the ba crappy sound league it's not even funny shaker 1000 kicks the Crap outta the ba.

And love the mustang interior far better all around gauges seats computer etc all better the one weak point on the camaro for sure.



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[L99BEN]

Originally Posted by DuskSS

Sorry beg to differ on the seats and stereo
The jbl is so far out of the ba crappy sound league it's not even funny shaker 1000 kicks the Crap outta the ba.

And love the mustang interior far better all around gauges seats computer etc all better the one weak point on the camaro for sure.



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To clarify, I was comparing the base stereos and seats.
To me the the 1SS Camaro's stereo sounds a lot better.
Comparing base cloth seats, the Camaro wins there as well IMO.
About the interior, I think the quality is similar(post 2012') but the SS feels like you're sitting in a coffin. The GT interior looks better overall to me too.

[DuskSS]

Originally Posted by L99BEN

To clarify, I was comparing the base stereos and seats.
To me the the 1SS Camaro's stereo sounds a lot better.
Comparing base cloth seats, the Camaro wins there as well IMO.
About the interior, I think the quality is similar(post 2012') but the SS feels like you're sitting in a coffin. The GT interior looks better overall to me too.

Makes sense haven't looked or driven at anything other than the GT premium or above and the 2ss/rs on the camaro side.

On those 2 the stang interior wins hands down IMO

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[wnt2gofst]

I own a new 5.0. Wife sold the camaro's since they came back out and now looking to get her one. Plenty of friends with both from stock to 700-1000+whp for both.. Some things to consider.

5.0 cheaper to start/cheaper to mod Suspension /blower/better setup interior ie gauge location/looks good/cams,heads, are crazy expensive, weak manual trans, super strong autos(1300whp being made on stock ones), better rear end for drag racing.

SS/nothing beats the sound of a cammed LS engine/great looking car as well/ engine mods such as cam etc cheaper/blowers more expensive, more tuners that can really tune these cars, heavier car, better rear end for autox.

If want just to look good not get crazy with mods/power etc buy the SS and not drag Race,

Want a car to make crazy HP/ mod a lot/drag race buy the 5.0.

Just Another 700whp stock engine DD 5.0

[upflying]

Originally Posted by theACe

**Before people start a bash thread....I wasn't the cause of my car being totaled...some girl ran a red light and hit me coming off a green light on my way home from work**

Well you may not be at fault but you could have prevented it. Just look both ways before going into an intersection with a green light.

[L99BEN]

weak manual trans,

I wouldn't say the manual is weak but there have been some sporadic issues for sure. Mine works fine and feels great, many people don't know how to shift these things.
The manual works just fine with bolt-ons (tune, headers...). Heavy hp applications I'd go with the auto...

SS/nothing beats the sound of a cammed LS engine/great looking car as well/

A cammed SS is and sounds nasty but comes with a price...

[All Star]

Have you even paid off your Mustang yet? Oy.

[Obzen]

Originally Posted by theACe

I wasn't the cause of my car being totaled...some girl ran a red light and hit me coming off a green light on my way home from work.

The only other incidents I have had are a blow out, someone merging into my car without looking, and a door ding from a parking curb that was really high.

Bummer! I retract my statement then. You got some bad luck. Be careful out there!

[DuskSS]

Originally Posted by L99BEN

I wouldn't say the manual is weak but there have been some sporadic issues for sure. Mine works fine and feels great, many people don't know how to shift these things.
The manual works just fine with bolt-ons (tune, headers...). Heavy hp applications I'd go with the auto...


A cammed SS is and sounds nasty but comes with a price...

That's also not true.

The manual is the stronger of the 2 they fixed all the weak output shaft issues in the 12 and 13 the weakest points are still the clutch and axles and pumpkin.

There are plenty of super high hp cars running manuals out there.
The tranny is good.

And exactly what price does that cam have?

With proper care of the engine that cammed engine will last every bit as long as a stocker if maintained.



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[caverman]

If you're looking for a brand new Camaro....run and get a '13 while you can. The changes to the '14 SUCK!!!!!

If you can swing a 1LE, it's well worth the money. If you're 18 then learn to drive a stick. It's not that hard and you'll love it in the end.

[Baylor16]

Please learn to drive a manual. I couldn't even drive my car out of the dealer lot when I bought it (my mom did, i know, embarrassing) but you literally get it in a day. I did and I taught my little brother how to in a day. Its really not hard and is so worth it.

[wnt2gofst]

Originally Posted by L99BEN

I wouldn't say the manual is weak but there have been some sporadic issues for sure. Mine works fine and feels great, many people don't know how to shift these things.
The manual works just fine with bolt-ons (tune, headers...). Heavy hp applications I'd go with the auto...


A cammed SS is and sounds nasty but comes with a price...

The MT -82 sucks. I owned a 11 5.0 manual. Lost two trans with it stock and full bolt ons car made 464whp. Know least 5 others personally with issues that had trans replaced. Then know least 3 more that Ford repaired theirs.

Last buddy put his blower on a stock 13. Stock paxton tune. Lost 3-5 gears in one street play session. With 550whp. He now has a 6k magnum XL in it.

You can cam a SS for the cost of cams alone of a 5.0. That's even dod delete for the l99

But for 5k you can have a blown 5.0 that makes 600whp.

Every high HP manual trans has a tranny swap, or 3k worth of work to make the MT -82 stronger.

And the auto is the stronger of the two. Show me one 1000whp+ manual mt-82 trans 5.0 that is a stock trans.

Just Another 700whp DD 5.0