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bouncertime · 02-26-2008, 01:49 PM

At this point, I don't care which engine is the base V8, as long as it blows the doors off of a Mustang GT and has lots of upgrade options. Of course I would be very happy with an LS3, it wouldn't be hard to get over 500 ponys out of one.

swazworth · 02-26-2008, 01:51 PM

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All I've gotta say is this....notice how Scott has dropped in quite a few other threads but the ones that have to do w/ engines?? A wink here and nod there about a gas cap location or even flat out telling people "those aren't the darn headlights" is really minor in importance to engines. Not even a shread of a hint....except for forget everything you know about engines.

Again, could be the LS3. But, this tells me^^that GM might have something up their sleeves for a Gen V...seeing as though we don't know much about them at ALL!!!

we can only hope....... but didn't 3whiterag say something about working on new killer engines? i will have to look up the quote.

SoFlaZ · 02-26-2008, 01:51 PM

I was told to forget everything I know about engines, so I did.

To me the LS3 is somewhat of a small possibility?

but hey its sweet if it is in the Camaro, but I am not setting my mind on getting an LS3.

swazworth · 02-26-2008, 02:13 PM

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Why don't we just wait and see! We have run some very interesting prototype and pilot engines at the plant over the last year and a half and I have tried to drop some hints but no one is listening, so I will remain quiet from now on. You all will just have to wait and see!

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Yeah! I guess it is out now...the LS3 will have 450hp. and there are other engines with more...lots more hp. coming down the pipe. Stay tuned and hang on!!!!

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I think that the top dog Camaro will have well over 500+ hp. As a well known person once said, "Keep the Faith"!

these are some of the quotes i was talking about......

Emu the Foo · 02-26-2008, 02:23 PM

i thought the ls3 is only 430 hp??? current v8 specs are here

swazworth · 02-26-2008, 03:33 PM

those are just the quotes> i didn't change them in anyway. but, from what i have read you are right->>> 430hp->

*DGthe3* · 02-26-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Emu the Foo

i thought the ls3 is only 430 hp??? current v8 specs are here

its 430 or 436 depending on who you ask. But GM could sell it with 500 hp if they ever wanted to. They have the parts lying arond, but to include them in regular cars it would reduce the engines life and increase cost a bit. So they let you do it instead. GM's engines, notably their V8's, are generally pretty mild from the factory. More so than most other manufacturers. But that also alows for a very cheap build up for those that are interested. From what I understand, a cam swap and intake and you get LS3's up to nearly 500 hp with parts from GM's own catalogue. So they can bump the rating up to 450 when ever they want.

Omega94 · 02-26-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

its 430 or 436 depending on who you ask. But GM could sell it with 500 hp if they ever wanted to. They have the parts lying arond, but to include them in regular cars it would reduce the engines life and increase cost a bit. So they let you do it instead. GM's engines, notably their V8's, are generally pretty mild from the factory. More so than most other manufacturers. But that also alows for a very cheap build up for those that are interested. From what I understand, a cam swap and intake and you get LS3's up to nearly 500 hp with parts from GM's own catalogue. So they can bump the rating up to 450 when ever they want.

That 436 hp rating comes from the optional exhaust that you can get on the standard C6 Vette. It sounds rather tame during regular acceleration but under WOT the pressue makes butterfly plates flip and making the Vette sound more aggressive. Forgive me if you already knew that, I figured I'd just put that out there!

*radz28* · 02-26-2008, 04:15 PM

I agree with the catalog offering a lot more power however, they are mostly designed around the ASA and Hot cams (if I remember correctly) and those aren't emissions friendly. Shoot, a little more lift, like maybe similar to LS7, may push the LS3 to 450...

I think GM would look a little bad if they come with less than Challenger at launch. To most people, the horsepower number is what is important, not weight to power ratio, therefore, I hope they come with at least 430. Shoot, if I can get 450 N/A, I might not even need the most $$$ S/C model...

Eh, who am I kidding. Boost or bust!!!

*DGthe3* · 02-26-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega94

That 436 hp rating comes from the optional exhaust that you can get on the standard C6 Vette. It sounds rather tame during regular acceleration but under WOT the pressue makes butterfly plates flip and making the Vette sound more aggressive. Forgive me if you already knew that, I figured I'd just put that out there!

I knew of the reason, not the details. Also, when I was looking up related infor for that post I discovered another reason why GM's engines are under rated, its because of the SAE test protocol. it generates numbers that are about 5% lower than other engine dynos. So that would put the 430 hp SAE up to that 450 mark. Without doing a single thing. Learn something new every day . . .

*radz28* · 02-26-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

I knew of the reason, not the details. Also, when I was looking up related infor for that post I discovered another reason why GM's engines are under rated, its because of the SAE test protocol. it generates numbers that are about 5% lower than other engine dynos. So that would put the 430 hp SAE up to that 450 mark. Without doing a single thing. Learn something new every day . . .

No kidding

Shoot, my intake/exhaust LS1 puts more than 360 RWHP down which is pretty close to 400 FWHP. Most of the crate engine tests of LS1s, with lont tubes, was near 400 horse anyways, so I definately see this trend too.

*GTAHVIT* · 02-26-2008, 05:43 PM

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