Sound System Replacement Advice

[VeeGeeTea]

@rey Would the below diagram help?
It should technically power all your speakers.
You'll need 3 after market amp for it though.

[DefusingDanger]

Steve is a far better source for FARK info, what wires will need jumped and if it will work with his harness.

You can always turn the gain down on that particular channel to keep from blowing it. The RMS should (hopefully will) be higher on your new speaker than the stock center. That with a cleaner source of power will make a big difference. Tuning this system will take a lot of time no doubt. Be sure to take it somewhere and give them all the details before they start.

[Crazyhorse6901]

Originally Posted by Brandywine5

I know you said you are on a limited budget and this may be over the top but it's worth looking at. There are other DSPs out there as well. Honestly, I think you are going to need to drop some coin even if you don't use a DSP. I got a five channel out DSP and am using all of them for just front doors and sub.

Whatever you decide...do it once and do it right.

http://content.abt.com/documents/382...one_manual.pdf

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[BronxRS]

Originally Posted by rey

Believe me, I understand what you are saying about not missing the center speaker. I completely do. I don't mind using a left or right channel. I just want to know the best way of getting it done without having to install a sound processor. I am worried that the speaker will blow if I use a channel, which is why I'm turning to y'all for advice. There has got to be a way.

If I buy your FARK and use that, can I still give power to the center speaker in any way? If so, how? (It sounds dumb to say, but I don't mind it being a left or right channel. The sound bouncing off the windshield is what I want.)

I don't want to purport to speak for you or know what you are thinking, but when you say you want sound bouncing off the windshield, my first question is "why"? Glass is a horrible surface for sound for so many reasons, two of which are vibration and reflection. If you want the sound bouncing off for reflection, it seems that you are just looking for a fuller sound stage. IMO, both the questionable sound quality of that center speaker and unreliability of refracted sound waves coming off glass are NOT an ideal way to fill a sound stage. Running two good quality front component speakers with the tweeters placed properly can give you fantastic imaging. If it wasn't for the processing limitations of the MyLink head unit, some pretty discriminating listeners could probably live with that alone. That is why I will be adding a DSP to my system. I love good quality sound and this head unit is limiting my system. For the reasons Steve said, leaving a center speaker and trying to run sufficient power to it seems like an inefficient use of amplified power. For the extra juice you'll feed that center speaker (or the cost of replacing it), you'll have been better off getting a good quality 4 or 5 (if you want a decent sub) channel amp, and good components. Best of luck to you. At the end of the day, it's your ears and you'll know what you like.

[Dega Man]

I just installed the new Alpine PDR-F50 Amp using the FARK Harness from ********, I am also replacing the door speakers with Infinity Kappa 62.11i. I was very concerned about losing the front center speaker also. But after installing a very nice amp with great stereo separation and a high damping factor to provide very tight controlled bass. I do not think I could appreciate the detail stereo separation and clarity if the front center speaker was there. I must give a great compliment to Steve at ******** for developing the FARK harness, He did his homework before releasing this to us and I thank Him for leaving the front center speaker out. Also with this new Alpine Amp, I've had two reputable stereo installers listen to my system and they both thought that I had a sub in the back with the stock 6X9's with this Amp. Both of them ordered the Amp on yesterday and said they will without a doubt start using the FARK from ********.

[Adrian97c]

Originally Posted by Dega Man

I just installed the new Alpine PDR-F50 Amp using the FARK Harness from ********, I am also replacing the door speakers with Infinity Kappa 62.11i. I was very concerned about losing the front center speaker also. But after installing a very nice amp with great stereo separation and a high damping factor to provide very tight controlled bass. I do not think I could appreciate the detail stereo separation and clarity if the front center speaker was there. I must give a great compliment to Steve at ******** for developing the FARK harness, He did his homework before releasing this to us and I thank Him for leaving the front center speaker out. Also with this new Alpine Amp, I've had two reputable stereo installers listen to my system and they both thought that I had a sub in the back with the stock 6X9's with this Amp. Both of them ordered the Amp on yesterday and said they will without a doubt start using the FARK from ********.

Wow so u have no sub?

Did ur new amp fit in same place as where your stock Boston amp was?

I hate hearing the distorted speakers once volume is past 30! Can't wait to upgrade via ********


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[Dega Man]

Yes, I also purchased the mounting board from ******** and placed amp directly in the same place where the stock amp was. I purchased a Amp Installation kit made by Rockford Fosgate (AWG4). The ground wire was only 3ft long and I needed about 4 1/2 ft to make a neat run from the battery terminal ground to the amp. The amp is a rocker for real, it is rated a 125W per channel RMS @2 ohms and 85 per channel RMS @4 ohms. On my Alpine certificate from birth the actual power was 195 per Channel @ 2 ohms rms. Very clean. ******** has made this install a breeze and neat.

Originally Posted by Adrian97c

Wow so u have no sub?

Did ur new amp fit in same place as where your stock Boston amp was?

I hate hearing the distorted speakers once volume is past 30! Can't wait to upgrade via ********


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[Adrian97c]

Originally Posted by Dega Man

Yes, I also purchased the mounting board from ******** and placed amp directly in the same place where the stock amp was. I purchased a Amp Installation kit made by Rockford Fosgate (AWG4). The ground wire was only 3ft long and I needed about 4 1/2 ft to make a neat run from the battery terminal ground to the amp. The amp is a rocker for real, it is rated a 125W per channel RMS @2 ohms and 85 per channel RMS @4 ohms. On my Alpine certificate from birth the actual power was 195 per Channel @ 2 ohms rms. Very clean. ******** has made this install a breeze and neat.

Mounting board & amp installation kit? Hmmmm I was hoping just to pull stock amp out & sit in the new amp with existing wires w/ just the supplied harnesses from ********?

Amp I want to use is: JL audio XD400/4


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[VeeGeeTea]

Originally Posted by Adrian97c

Mounting board & amp installation kit? Hmmmm I was hoping just to pull stock amp out & sit in the new amp with existing wires & just the supplies harnesses from ********?

Amp I want to use is: JL audio XD400/4


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The stock amp area doesn't fit too well.
You'll also need to sacrifice the plastic cover if you purchase an aftermarket amp mount.

[Adrian97c]

Originally Posted by VeeGeeTea

The stock amp area doesn't fit too well.
You'll also need to sacrifice the plastic cover if you purchase an aftermarket amp mount.

Plastic cover? Any pics? I still haven't opened the trunk since buying the car lol

I was told by Steve that "JL audio XD400/4" fits stock location.

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[Dega Man]

The board is steal for $15.00 the amp mount on the board and slide right in where original amp mount. I was going to go with the JL XD 400 also, but Alpine just released the PDR-F50 for 2014. After reviewing the spec's on both amps including the dimensions, the specs on the new Alpine exceeded the JL XD400 by a great margin. Now we all know that JL make very high quality amps and specs can be deceitful sometime. So I was still very skeptical until I received the Alpine once installing and setting it up, I was totally amazed, it's awesome!

[VeeGeeTea]

Originally Posted by Adrian97c

Plastic cover? Any pics? I still haven't opened the trunk since buying the car lol

I was told by Steve that "JL audio XD400/4" fits stock location.

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It's this cover, near the tail light it's the only piece between your factory and you.