ENOUGH IS ENOUGH…FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!!

[stovt001]

Z06 AND ZR1: Corvette :: Z28: Camaro.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by stovt001

Z06 AND ZR1: Corvette :: Z28: Camaro.

What about the corvette Z51 package? That is the most similar the the Z28, well sorta. Z28 could be the equivelent of the Z06 as well. but the ZL1 is the equiv to the ZR1.

[The_Blur]

I can't keep it in any longer!

I heard from insiders at GM's secret underground base that the top dog will have 4000 horsepower with 3600 pound-feet of torque with a government-sponsored top secret engine that will only go in the upcoming Camaro. It will have extendable wings and be able to fly. It will look like the bottom has neons, but those will really be special rockets that help it hover above ground. The flux capacitor will activate at 88 miles per hour so you can go back in time to redo races you lost in previous cars. The active fuel management feature will not be available in the Camaro as it will use a nuclear reactor to power it's overwhelming motor, and it will do 0-60 faster than the NASA space shuttle. The top speed will be 600 miles per hour, and it can teleport using new technology that was stolen from a space-faring civilization from the future. I'm sure I've forgotten something, so feel free to ask questions.




In less sarcastic words, the Camaro will be a dream. We don't know that many facts, so you can either believe what I just told you along with the other nonsense speculation that we've been making, or you can wait for the truth from GM. I recommend believing my story because it's much more entertaining than the other speculation we've discussed.

This post is not intended to disrespect any member or any opinion. It only points out that speculation is nowhere near as important as facts. Focus on the facts, and keep the faith.

[CaptianSam]

EITHER WAY... what ever engine you get.... you can do ALOTTTTT of mods you can make an ls9 if you want you can do anything

way to much of this ZL1, and supercharged going around.... that would make the price more expensive... and chevy doesn't want to make cars lower then 25 mpg(quoted...somewhere) regardless... a supercharged camaro is a long shot... if if its a sure shot... will be, limited, and low production...REGARDLESS OF THE NAME!!!!
the name game needs to relax

[NOODLESgoneWILD]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

What about the corvette Z51 package? That is the most similar the the Z28, well sorta. Z28 could be the equivalent of the Z06 as well. But the ZL1 is the equiv to the ZR1.

Let me just say this first! Being completely honest and total serious. I truly have no allegiance to any trim package (SS or Z/28)...I’m just going with GM's tendency over the past few decades.

Now this is how I see it!..I feel that SS is to Camaro as the ZR1 & Z06 (of late) have been to Corvette.

For example: If you go to the corvette build web page, and you choose the Z06 (LS7 @ 505hp)...you can't add the Z51 package (I’m using the Z06, as you can’t build the ZR1 as of today), which we all know if the handling package. If you choose the Standard V8 (LS3 @440hp) corvette, you then can add the Z51 Package.

From my understand the Z/28 package back in ’69 was the sport handling package
With a 327, The SS had the 350…am I wrong; please correct me if I am!

So if GM follows that pattern of thought, and history as I know it...I believe it will go like this.

Base Model (V8) = LS3 @400hp

Z/28 = LS3 @400+hp (Sport Tuned) + Handling Package. Maybe some reduced weight by have the basic interior package. Like the “1lt” interior package on the Corvette…better for Autocross (if you want to do that)

SS = LSA (Super Charged w/the Handling package & Maybe Luxury Interior)

Just my 2 Cents…and I’ll say no more!

[VTXrider]

not sure about the story around the LS8 so I chose the LSA in the SS as top dog. Chevy has for some time designated SS as their top dog in any model line. Z28 will be the base V8 out in early '09, SS will be top dog out some time after the convertible maybe as late as 2010.

[Mike C]

Originally Posted by NOODLESgoneWILD

Let me just say this first! Being completely honest and total serious. I truly have no allegiance to any trim package (SS or Z/28)...I’m just going with GM's tendency over the past few decades.

Now this is how I see it!..I feel that SS is to Camaro as the ZR1 & Z06 (of late) have been to Corvette.

For example: If you go to the corvette build web page, and you choose the Z06 (LS7 @ 505hp)...you can't add the Z51 package (I’m using the Z06, as you can’t build the ZR1 as of today), which we all know if the handling package. If you choose the Standard V8 (LS3 @440hp) corvette, you then can add the Z51 Package.

From my understand the Z/28 package back in ’69 was the sport handling package
With a 327, The SS had the 350…am I wrong; please correct me if I am!

So if GM follows that pattern of thought, and history as I know it...I believe it will go like this.

Base Model (V8) = LS3 @400hp

Z/28 = LS3 @400+hp (Sport Tuned) + Handling Package. Maybe some reduced weight by have the basic interior package. Like the “1lt” interior package on the Corvette…better for Autocross (if you want to do that)

SS = LSA (Super Charged w/the Handling package & Maybe Luxury Interior)

Just my 2 Cents…and I’ll say no more!

That makes complete sense!

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

I can't keep it in any longer!

I heard from insiders at GM's secret underground base that the top dog will have 4000 horsepower with 3600 pound-feet of torque with a government-sponsored top secret engine that will only go in the upcoming Camaro. It will have extendable wings and be able to fly. It will look like the bottom has neons, but those will really be special rockets that help it hover above ground. The flux capacitor will activate at 88 miles per hour so you can go back in time to redo races you lost in previous cars. The active fuel management feature will not be available in the Camaro as it will use a nuclear reactor to power it's overwhelming motor, and it will do 0-60 faster than the NASA space shuttle. The top speed will be 600 miles per hour, and it can teleport using new technology that was stolen from a space-faring civilization from the future. I'm sure I've forgotten something, so feel free to ask questions.

this is all wrong, think about it 4000 HP from a nuclear reactor hybrid, i bet its punching out a good 50,000 HP...is there going to be a fusion option anytime soon????? you forgot to add the 200 MPG that it gets...

[Wedgy]

Maybe its just me, but I hate... HHHAAAATTTEEE!! the term "top dog".

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by camaro_corvette

this is all wrong, think about it 4000 HP from a nuclear reactor hybrid, i bet its punching out a good 50,000 HP...is there going to be a fusion option anytime soon????? you forgot to add the 200 MPG that it gets...

It doesn't do gallons of gas. It's a nuclear reactor!

[1st Gen Forever]

Originally Posted by NOODLESgoneWILD

Let me just say this first! Being completely honest and total serious. I truly have no allegiance to any trim package (SS or Z/28)...I’m just going with GM's tendency over the past few decades.

Now this is how I see it!..I feel that SS is to Camaro as the ZR1 & Z06 (of late) have been to Corvette.

For example: If you go to the corvette build web page, and you choose the Z06 (LS7 @ 505hp)...you can't add the Z51 package (I’m using the Z06, as you can’t build the ZR1 as of today), which we all know if the handling package. If you choose the Standard V8 (LS3 @440hp) corvette, you then can add the Z51 Package.

From my understand the Z/28 package back in ’69 was the sport handling package
With a 327, The SS had the 350…am I wrong; please correct me if I am!

So if GM follows that pattern of thought, and history as I know it...I believe it will go like this.

Base Model (V8) = LS3 @400hp

Z/28 = LS3 @400+hp (Sport Tuned) + Handling Package. Maybe some reduced weight by have the basic interior package. Like the “1lt” interior package on the Corvette…better for Autocross (if you want to do that)

SS = LSA (Super Charged w/the Handling package & Maybe Luxury Interior)

Just my 2 Cents…and I’ll say no more!

Little off on the 69 Z/28.

GM had a bunch of weekend racers working for them and wanted to go SCCA Tans Am sedan racing. The rule book dictated cars had to be production sedans with a maximum engine displacement of 5.0 liters. So they took the 327 block, stuck a 283 crank in it (making a 302) with the best production (at the time) heads, intake, a huge cam and high compression pistons to build a super easy revving high RPM banshee of an engine. To keep to the rule book, they offered it to the public in 1967 as an option called "Special Performance Package" R.P.O code Z28. Every option had a code. Even stripes, head restraints, etc.

They under rated the HP at 290 but most people agree it was more of a 400HP motor but needed a steep rear end gear to stay in the power band. And you’d need to pull the valve covers to adjust the valves about once a week if you actually drove it daily. Not really street friendly.

In 1967 the Z28 didn't even have emblems but as word got out an polularity grew into 68 and 69, the Z28 became legendary and more ended up on the street than in Trans Am racing.

In 1970, GM pulled out of Tans Am Racing and the Z/28 ever since as been various street option packages not geared toward any form of sanctioned racing except for the IROC-Z in the 80's.

[Mythic]

Maybe Im off, but I'd always thought the RS was the appearance package,
the SS was the Engine package and the Z28 was the "track" package.

that's why you see so many RS/SS setups.

Along those lines, personally I'm looking for a sleeper. I''m after a Z28 track package and the SS engine package. I'd like to keep the outside as non-descript as possible. Though I would like a nice low profile gfx kit

[wildpaws]

Originally Posted by 1st Gen Forever

Little off on the 69 Z/28.

GM had a bunch of weekend racers working for them and wanted to go SCCA Tans Am sedan racing. The rule book dictated cars had to be production sedans with a maximum engine displacement of 5.0 liters. So they took the 327 block, stuck a 283 crank in it (making a 302) with the best production (at the time) heads, intake, a huge cam and high compression pistons to build a super easy revving high RPM banshee of an engine. To keep to the rule book, they offered it to the public in 1967 as an option called "Special Performance Package" R.P.O code Z28. Every option had a code. Even stripes, head restraints, etc.

They under rated the HP at 290 but most people agree it was more of a 400HP motor but needed a steep rear end gear to stay in the power band. And you’d need to pull the valve covers to adjust the valves about once a week if you actually drove it daily. Not really street friendly.

In 1967 the Z28 didn't even have emblems but as word got out an polularity grew into 68 and 69, the Z28 became legendary and more ended up on the street than in Trans Am racing.

In 1970, GM pulled out of Tans Am Racing and the Z/28 ever since as been various street option packages not geared toward any form of sanctioned racing except for the IROC-Z in the 80's.

Just to add to your correct info, '67-'69 Z/28 was not available with AC, auto tranny, or as a convertible. In '69 you could get the chambered exhaust system (no mufflers like the Vette sidepipes, but under the car). It had the stiffest front springs of any small block Camaro in those years, while all Camaros then had 14" wheels the Z/28 had 15" wheels yet sat two inches lower than other Camaros, thus was only available with E7015 tires while the SS has F7014 tires. Just some little tidbits of added info.
Clyde

[4thGen]

SS with the LSA.