will curb weight change your buying decision?

[mprhead5]

Originally Posted by sterlingnotes

I'm buying the Camaro regardless of the weight. I's such a beautiful car and will have enough power for me to enjoy. The weight isn't really a factor to me.

it is a nice looking car. Its going to look real nice with the factory body kit on the higher models or RS. It will be a nice car no doubt about it. It just dosn't meet my perfromance goals. If they get the steering to be well sorted I may take a second look at it though.

[radz28]

Although I'd hate to see it that heavy, it wouldn't change my decision to get one. IMO, it seems that will the developement time that GM's had, they'd be able to get that weight down though, so I feel pretty confident it'll get in the neighborhood of the Mustang.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Z284ever

Ironically, that one will be the heaviest.

No chance of 3,500 lbs or under.

dare i say then..... why call the gt 500 a goat and other variety of names for being an overweight car? (this is just in general reference to what you hear on the web.... not specifically you)

because that is the car the high end one will be competing with..... if the high end Camaro wants to be premium to the Mustang..... then the high end Camaro better not be in GT500 weight range.

i SUPPOSE i see everyone's concern about weight in a different way now.... but still i wouldn't complain about it unless i was going to get the GT500 fighter and pay 40k+

[radz28]

It just seems to me, with the way gas is going and how green we're all told to be, that GM would try to make it as light as possible, given all the cost constraints and what-not.

I'm not arguing with any of the points above, however comparing this car to any generation before in terms of quality is like comparing an old Kia to a BMW. These cars are going to have chassis' worlds better than any generation before and I'm willing to pay a little more for that and for the car to be a little heavier as long as it's nice and tight.

[stevenm357]

not so much weight as what it's capable of if it can break high 12's stock I'll have an issue.

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by camaro5

G8 GT weighs 3995lbs. Camaro will be less. I'm buying it.

It can't be heavier than its sister car the G8. So quit worrying about the weight people..You can still be Evil Knievel and jump over a few cars if that is your thing.. The GT500 fighter will be heavier due to having a larger engine alone and bigger brakes. However does it really matter at that point...

[96CAMaro]

Just to throw in my input, if this Camaro weighs in more than 3775lbs I won't be purchasing the Camaro. That is, of course, unless the hp/weight ratio is as good as the corvette Z06..then I'll buy it.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Z284ever

I agree with what you say.


I'll come out and say it: The GT500 is an overpriced, overweight, underperforming, PIG!

I would not enjoy watching the Z/28 follow that formula.

exactly.... it shouldn't follow that formula... but I think it wont be a whole lot better.... just a hunch.... i know the Chevy team is awesome.... something just tells me there are limitations when it comes to budgets (there always are) and the high end Camaro will be lighter than the GT500 and have better hp/weight numbers, but , not anything significant to the point that we will be impressed.

And this is not going to affect sales imo either.... look at the GT500 it still sold and sold well enough.

The 5th gen Camaro will do the same imo..... most of enthusiasts ... when we see the car in person.... we forget everything else and say where do i sign, lol.... the Mustang enthusiasts did the same thing.

This is a Camaro forum.... but ive driven both the GT500 and the Saleen S281 SC.... now the Saleen imo is headed in the right direction..... lighter and much more capable in the turns and fun to drive.... however, the GT500.... nothing but a straight line.


Either way boys.... if i got the dough at the time.... i will be getting the Camaro, LOL!

Infact the only other car I might get it is the new gen CTS.... i love em to death... I want one in red, lol.... it will be a toss up between those two.... I drive an A4 right now... and im used to the luxury factor of the interior and im having a hard time letting go of that.... and the CTS interior is awesome!

So we may have the same ride after all Z284ever.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by 96CAMaro

Just to throw in my input, if this Camaro weighs in more than 3775lbs I won't be purchasing the Camaro. That is, of course, unless the hp/weight ratio is as good as the corvette Z06..then I'll buy it.

quite specific to the tee, eh, 96.... what if it weighs in at 3776? Will you not buy it?

[mprhead5]

if GM can get the chasiss and steering setup well it will destroy the mustang. The current GT mustang handles so bad that it could have 50 more hp than the new camaro and still lose. as long as the Camaro handles a little better than the other zeta cars due to slightly reduced weight it should have no problem besting a mustang at the road track. even an early 4th gen can whoop a mustang at the track because the camaro has always had a tighter suspension setup

[DGthe3]

Another thing to keep in mind is which camaro are we talking about?

a 250-300 hp V6?
a 360-430 hp V8?
a 500+ hp sc V8?

Each one of these will add another ~200 lbs. So a v6 might be 3600 lbs, but the top dog will likely crowd 4000 lbs. Its like the old days of the 6 cylinder, small block(s), and big blocks.

[Camaroman_99]

Are they gonna price the maro by the pound Oh well, I hope it wont weigh over 4000 pounds but I'm gonna get me one anyhow....

[mprhead5]

talking base V8. if the base V6 weighs 3750 it would be horrible.

played around with a 1/4 mile calculator.

360whp (405 bhp ) 3800 lb car 12.77 1/4

250whp 2530lb car ( my car on 93 ) 12.59

of cource these numbers arn't actulay attainable on a street car but thats the math. you will lose at least .5 seconds off this time for shifting and anouther .2-.3 on 60'

thats why weight is important

[goteegoat]

While i can understand some of the member's concerns about weight, I don't share any of them. That weight argument vs performance is one argument you see all the time on vehicle like the S2000 and 350z. Some of the owners always looking for ways to keep there cars as light as possible down to obsessing over a few pounds here and there. The weight argument is a much more credible argument in those vehicles cases because the engines are close to being maxed out n/a and cost a significant amount of money to make more power in any form be it n/a or otherwise. Once you are dealing with the GM V8 series engines then the weight vs performance issue is moot for me regardless of what vehicle your talking about. The GM v8 engines are very affordable to make more HP in the n/a form. It won't cost much money to make 30-50 more horsepower on any v8 that is used in the 5th gen.

Though that horsepower/weight issue honestly, is really besides the point in my opinion. If the reason you won't buy a camaro is the weight, then honestly you probably shouldn't be shopping the car to start with. There are other vehicles that can be shopped if weight/power issues are your concern. You should be shopping the 5th gen because you feel something about the design of the 5th gen moves you in a way that you have to have the car. The 5th gen isn't going to be a commuter car, or a practical car, or a run of the mill blah/generic sedan. What it will be is a vehicle that there wont be anything else made on the road that looks like the 5th gen is going to look like, period. So for me, no absolutely not will weight matter if i purchase one.