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CoolestCamaro873 · 05-22-2008, 12:45 PM

This may be the most rediculous post ever. I hate to tell this guy that there is going to most likely be a line a mile long at every Chevy dealer when people can start ordering these cars. Even the fact that the Mustang is doomed is rediculous. But, I could see the Challenger leaving the scene real quick, unless they drop the V8's and start turbocharging their V6's. Which I doubt Dodge will do, I think it has always been the plan to run the Challenger for four to six years and dump it. Trust me if Ford and Chevy want these cars to survive they will find a way. Chevy has already been rumored to be testing Hybrid Technology for the Camaro, and Ford could do the same with the Mustang, but they seem to think they have it figured out with their V6 Ecoboost engines.

The fact is GM has spent too much time and money on bringing us the best Camaro to ever hit the streets. And they know most people are dying to have this car, and the long wait will only make it easier to sell them when they do hit the streets. The demand wil be high on these cars. And if everything they say is true about the Camaro's V6 lineup, we won't have to worry about the sales of the Camaros, it won't be killed off again. As for the V8's for the future, I'm sure Chevy will figure out a way to keep the car going. No way would they spend this much time and money if they knew this car would have to be killed off again.

Also, if GM does use the LS3 for the Camaro, which I think it will. It will get reasonable gas mileage. My '05 Vette with the LS2 gets 25-27 mpg on the highway. My father has an '08 convertible Vette with the LS3 and is getting 27-28 mpg highway. And in the city I have managed to get anywhere from 19-21 mpg. So, the Camaro should be fine!

*radz28* · 05-22-2008, 01:13 PM

Eh; it's a bunch of BS. GM's not going to get rid of Camaro, at least not this generation. Sounds like a hater to me, more than anything.

*radz28* · 05-22-2008, 01:13 PM

BTW; my LT1 could easily get 31 MPG on the freeway...

rmyers · 05-22-2008, 01:15 PM

Well ladies and gents, you can thank our wonderful government for not allowing us to drill and take our own natural resources. You can aslo thank them for the wonder CAFE standards and if I recall the last time that was done, resulted in the wonderful Chrysler K-Car. I personally think the oil companies should launch a massive ad campaign that points out how over 60% of on-shore potential reserves cannot be drilled because of federal regulations. Maybe when people get tired of paying 4.00 per gallon for gasoline, they will demand Congress to do their darn jobs and open up the resources that are naturally ours. Our economic strength is being held hostage by environmentalist. No other country in the world hamstrings itself like we do. I personally think it is time to fire just about everyone in Washington. And I don't care to hear arguments about it taking 10 years to realize any benefit if we start drilling, because that was the excuse they gave us 10 years ago.

Ron Myers

Cyberstyx · 05-22-2008, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFord

GM no longer has a sure bet buyer base; the name has been out of circulation for almost seven years now. That is a long time, regardless of other external issues, such as gas prices. Rebuilding a brand/make of car is tough in the best of times. In bad times, it is a fool’s errand.

Errmm... LOL?!

Guess what, Chevy 's NEW Camaro will be the FIRST to be exported to Greece, and I 'm GETTING it. And it will be with the biggest $#%^ engine GM will put on it. Too bad for him that the new Camaro is loved by the OLD Camaro-fanatics and at the same time gets a crowd of NEW Camaro-fanatics.

And the guy who wrote that arti... sorry, that sheet of shit, can go drive around in a 2-seated-45-HP-electric-sorry-excuse-for-a-car car. See how funny that is.

rmyers · 05-22-2008, 01:50 PM

And one other thing. The author should look up the definition of Recession...he would see that we are NOT in one.

Captain Awesome · 05-22-2008, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberstyx

Errmm... LOL?!

Guess what, Chevy 's NEW Camaro will be the FIRST to be exported to Greece, and I 'm GETTING it. And it will be with the biggest $#%^ engine GM will put on it. Too bad for him that the new Camaro is loved by the OLD Camaro-fanatics and at the same time gets a crowd of NEW Camaro-fanatics.

And the guy who wrote that arti... sorry, that sheet of shit, can go drive around in a 2-seated-45-HP-electric-sorry-excuse-for-a-car car. See how funny that is.

I hope this guy that wrote the 'article' drives a "SMART" car, otherwise he's a hypocrite!!!!!!!!!!!

*DGthe3* · 05-22-2008, 02:25 PM

One thing that that guy has ignored is that absolute fuel economy doesn't matter much for the Camaro. Its the relative economy that is important. Its the same way in every segment, for all the various things that people buy cars for. You don't cross shop a silverado with a prius, you compare it to a tundra. So, if its relative economy that is being looked at, the Camaro should be quite sucessful since it should have the best in class fuel economy, to go along with its performance. The SRT8 gets nasty mileage, the base V8 Camaro could possibly out perform it, while getting the mileage of a V6 mustang. THAT is what will make the Camaro a sucess and will prevent it from being doomed.

CoolestCamaro873 · 05-23-2008, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3

The SRT8 gets nasty mileage, the base V8 Camaro could possibly out perform it, while getting the mileage of a V6 mustang. THAT is what will make the Camaro a sucess and will prevent it from being doomed.

+1

Mr Twisty · 05-24-2008, 01:02 AM

I'm confident our wiz kids will resolve the issues just fine. What was the average fuel mileage 40 years ago? 12mpg? The bar has been set high, but you just watch. Sure we'll have electrics, hybrids, your 8th gen may have a fission reactor drive (it could happen

But thru all the hardships we have faster better handling safer cars than ever before. Thank you wiz kids. And thank you soldiers for protecting our freedoms to tell our congressmen..."YOU SUCK!"

warbird81 · 05-24-2008, 11:06 PM

it really does not matter the prices are going up now because they will plumit later. the oil company is tring to get as much money out of us now, so when it comes time to lower prices they will have a nest egg. it is just like the housing market but with smarter ceos. the company holds back on production, to stock pile their supply. eventually the prices will start to effect the government and they will step in like they did with microsoft. prices will go down or the economy will suffer.

V8manSS · 07-08-2008, 05:42 PM

I'll believe it when the official news came out.

*radz28* · 07-08-2008, 05:52 PM

Didn't it come down a wee bit today?...

Chevyrocker · 07-08-2008, 06:19 PM

alright, hate mail time...send it all to www.ericpetersautos.com

05-22-2008, 01:13 PM	#44
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,795 View My Garage	Eh; it's a bunch of BS. GM's not going to get rid of Camaro, at least not this generation. Sounds like a hater to me, more than anything. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

05-22-2008, 01:13 PM	#45
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,795 View My Garage	BTW; my LT1 could easily get 31 MPG on the freeway... __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

05-22-2008, 02:25 PM	#50
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,366	One thing that that guy has ignored is that absolute fuel economy doesn't matter much for the Camaro. Its the relative economy that is important. Its the same way in every segment, for all the various things that people buy cars for. You don't cross shop a silverado with a prius, you compare it to a tundra. So, if its relative economy that is being looked at, the Camaro should be quite sucessful since it should have the best in class fuel economy, to go along with its performance. The SRT8 gets nasty mileage, the base V8 Camaro could possibly out perform it, while getting the mileage of a V6 mustang. THAT is what will make the Camaro a sucess and will prevent it from being doomed. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

05-24-2008, 01:02 AM	#52
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,763	I'm confident our wiz kids will resolve the issues just fine. What was the average fuel mileage 40 years ago? 12mpg? The bar has been set high, but you just watch. Sure we'll have electrics, hybrids, your 8th gen may have a fission reactor drive (it could happen But thru all the hardships we have faster better handling safer cars than ever before. Thank you wiz kids. And thank you soldiers for protecting our freedoms to tell our congressmen..."YOU SUCK!" __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin lib·er·ty /ˈlibərdē/ noun 1. the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views

05-24-2008, 11:06 PM	#53
warbird81 Drives: 1995 camaro, 2005 sts Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: arizona Posts: 113	it really does not matter the prices are going up now because they will plumit later. the oil company is tring to get as much money out of us now, so when it comes time to lower prices they will have a nest egg. it is just like the housing market but with smarter ceos. the company holds back on production, to stock pile their supply. eventually the prices will start to effect the government and they will step in like they did with microsoft. prices will go down or the economy will suffer. __________________ on a mustang

05-22-2008, 12:45 PM	#43
CoolestCamaro873 The Road's A Bad Joke... Drives: '12 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York Posts: 567	This may be the most rediculous post ever. I hate to tell this guy that there is going to most likely be a line a mile long at every Chevy dealer when people can start ordering these cars. Even the fact that the Mustang is doomed is rediculous. But, I could see the Challenger leaving the scene real quick, unless they drop the V8's and start turbocharging their V6's. Which I doubt Dodge will do, I think it has always been the plan to run the Challenger for four to six years and dump it. Trust me if Ford and Chevy want these cars to survive they will find a way. Chevy has already been rumored to be testing Hybrid Technology for the Camaro, and Ford could do the same with the Mustang, but they seem to think they have it figured out with their V6 Ecoboost engines. The fact is GM has spent too much time and money on bringing us the best Camaro to ever hit the streets. And they know most people are dying to have this car, and the long wait will only make it easier to sell them when they do hit the streets. The demand wil be high on these cars. And if everything they say is true about the Camaro's V6 lineup, we won't have to worry about the sales of the Camaros, it won't be killed off again. As for the V8's for the future, I'm sure Chevy will figure out a way to keep the car going. No way would they spend this much time and money if they knew this car would have to be killed off again. Also, if GM does use the LS3 for the Camaro, which I think it will. It will get reasonable gas mileage. My '05 Vette with the LS2 gets 25-27 mpg on the highway. My father has an '08 convertible Vette with the LS3 and is getting 27-28 mpg highway. And in the city I have managed to get anywhere from 19-21 mpg. So, the Camaro should be fine!

05-22-2008, 01:15 PM	#46
rmyers Drives: Both American Made Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 781	Well ladies and gents, you can thank our wonderful government for not allowing us to drill and take our own natural resources. You can aslo thank them for the wonder CAFE standards and if I recall the last time that was done, resulted in the wonderful Chrysler K-Car. I personally think the oil companies should launch a massive ad campaign that points out how over 60% of on-shore potential reserves cannot be drilled because of federal regulations. Maybe when people get tired of paying 4.00 per gallon for gasoline, they will demand Congress to do their darn jobs and open up the resources that are naturally ours. Our economic strength is being held hostage by environmentalist. No other country in the world hamstrings itself like we do. I personally think it is time to fire just about everyone in Washington. And I don't care to hear arguments about it taking 10 years to realize any benefit if we start drilling, because that was the excuse they gave us 10 years ago. Ron Myers

05-22-2008, 01:50 PM	#48
rmyers Drives: Both American Made Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 781	And one other thing. The author should look up the definition of Recession...he would see that we are NOT in one.

07-08-2008, 05:42 PM	#54
V8manSS Drives: none Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: nana Posts: 11	I'll believe it when the official news came out.

07-08-2008, 05:52 PM	#55
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,795 View My Garage	Didn't it come down a wee bit today?... __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

07-08-2008, 06:19 PM	#56
Chevyrocker Weekend Rockstar Drives: Depends on the day... Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: West Palm Beach Posts: 1,442	alright, hate mail time...send it all to www.ericpetersautos.com

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