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2013 Orange SS · 05-14-2016, 04:19 PM

People that should not be driving does not have an age. I see people every day that should not be driving. We get calls 24 hours a day about someone driving eratically and a lot of times we find them down the road in an accident. And they are all ages.

8balldeluxe · 05-14-2016, 04:27 PM

This car sir is totaled, as well as the charger. 6th gen it up, I would

Tunamanz · 05-14-2016, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelCamaro

Teenagers are dangerous because of things well within their control (i.e. texting, phone, radio, lack of experience, etc.). Those are all easily fixable and more of a problem with our society in general. You can't just repair an 85 year old person's reflexes and awareness (or lack thereof). I can't tell you how many times I've noticed some car up ahead going ridiculously slower than the flow of traffic (which is just as hazardous as speeding), swerving, or whatever, and got closer to see that it's gramps with a handicapped tag who can barely see over the steering wheel. I don't recall ever noticing a car from far away driving erratically and immediately thinking, "Man, must be a teenager."

I agree that, as a whole, there are far too many incompetent drivers on the road. I'm all for stricter driving tests, as well as the notion that there should be some type of retesting or recertification implemented after a certain age.

I would not let my daughter get her licenses until she completed a Teen Defensive Driving course put on by the local sheriff. There have been a few times she has had to use those skills they taught her and she has called to thank me for sending her to that class every time.

The difference between old people and teenagers is that you can work with a teenager to better their skills and defensive awareness but with an old person you get what is there!

Tunamanz · 05-14-2016, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ledzepx

WTF! Sorry about your car. Is it just me but the driver looks blank. Like nothing happened.

I don't think the driver really had any idea of what happened or the extent of the damage she caused. She did say sorry at one point and was more worried about where the tow company was taking her car over anything else.

Tunamanz · 05-14-2016, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by quickdrraw

Forgot how sue happy America was.

GL with your car. Glad no one was hurt.

I am not sue happy by any means and work hard for my money. Do not look for situations to get rich quick at all. I have only contacted an attorney to make sure that I do not get screwed by the insurance companies for my vehicle. It is very common in Florida and probably everywhere that insurance companies will do whatever they can to get out on the cheap side. If an attorney can force the situation to get my car totalled then job well done! I do not want a dime from the lady or the insurance company for anything outside of making my vehicle situation right.

68rssscamaro · 05-14-2016, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tunamanz

I don't think the driver really had any idea of what happened or the extent of the damage she caused. She did say sorry at one point and was more worried about where the tow company was taking her car over anything else.

Dazed and confused!
Poor old lady

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Originally Posted by Tunamanz

I am not sue happy by any means and work hard for my money. Do not look for situations to get rich quick at all. I have only contacted an attorney to make sure that I do not get screwed by the insurance companies for my vehicle. It is very common in Florida and probably everywhere that insurance companies will do whatever they can to get out on the cheap side. If an attorney can force the situation to get my car totalled then job well done! I do not want a dime from the lady or the insurance company for anything outside of making my vehicle situation right.

Nothing wrong with this! Id be doing the same.

Norm Peterson · 05-14-2016, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelCamaro

Teenagers are dangerous because of things well within their control (i.e. texting, phone, radio, lack of experience, etc.). Those are all easily fixable and more of a problem with our society in general.

Be careful what you assume. Experience does improve with seat time, but the first two can become an even bigger risk once the younger driver has gotten away with it without consequences. It's easy to learn wrong things as long as they don't get you hurt.

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You can't just repair an 85 year old person's reflexes and awareness (or lack thereof). I can't tell you how many times I've noticed some car up ahead going ridiculously slower than the flow of traffic (which is just as hazardous as speeding), swerving, or whatever, and got closer to see that it's gramps with a handicapped tag who can barely see over the steering wheel. I don't recall ever noticing a car from far away driving erratically and immediately thinking, "Man, must be a teenager."

I'll also bet that when you hear a burnout or see a car fishtail its way more or less around a corner that you don't think "old geezer", either.

Be a little careful about stereotyping.

Norm

scandata · 05-14-2016, 08:21 PM

Thank God no one was getting in or out of their car when she did that. They would definitely have been "totaled."

Norm Peterson · 05-14-2016, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by iTech

People at that age shouldn't be driving, period.

It is impossible to set a blanket age beyond which everybody's driving skill set has become inadequate. About ten years ago when I was autocrossing there was this one older gent who did well against much younger competitors in this fast-paced and frantic sort of driving event. He used to run the same car number as his age, and the last time I recall seeing him it was #82. My money - on a course previously unseen - would have been on him to run a better time and hit fewer cones than well over half the members of Camaro5 regardless of age. Maybe he was an outlier, but that's still evidence that with decent health, exceptionally good driving skills can be maintained well into one's senior years.

I'll be 69 this fall . . . you may find that the knee-jerk sort of answers that appeal to you today will have lost some of their luster a few years (decades?) from now. This might be one of them.

Tuna - I'm truly sorry for what happened and hope that you get a satisfactory resolution of it all. Chances are that Ms. SeniorCitizen was already somewhat shaken up by the initial incident, and driving when rattled like that is a recipe for trouble for anybody.

Norm

SteelCamaro · 05-14-2016, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

I'll also bet that when you hear a burnout or see a car fishtail its way more or less around a corner that you don't think "old geezer", either.

No, I just think, "what an asshole." Those are on purpose and fall under the category of moron. No teenager "accidentally" does a burnout because they were too distracted by their phone.

SteelCamaro · 05-14-2016, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

It is impossible to set a blanket age beyond which everybody's driving skill set has become inadequate. About ten years ago when I was autocrossing there was this one older gent who did well against much younger competitors in this fast-paced and frantic sort of driving event. He used to run the same car number as his age, and the last time I recall seeing him it was #82. My money - on a course previously unseen - would have been on him to run a better time and hit fewer cones than well over half the members of Camaro5 regardless of age. Maybe he was an outlier, but that's still evidence that with decent health, exceptionally good driving skills can be maintained well into one's senior years.

I'll be 69 this fall . . . you may find that the knee-jerk sort of answers that appeal to you today will have lost some of their luster a few years (decades?) from now. This might be one of them.

Norm

To play devil's advocate though, they set blanket restrictions on the other end of the spectrum with minimum ages, based on generalized national data. There are people mature enough to drink before age 21 (most do anyway), and skilled enough to drive before 16. Not saying the ages should be changed or a maximum driving age should be set, just pointing that out. There should be regular recert tests every X amount of years, or after you reach age X. Good drivers like your autocross guy will carry on, and the dangers to public safety, regardless of age, will be taken off the road.

Windycity · 05-14-2016, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 68rssscamaro

At some point people should not be able to drive any longer!

Why oh why do they not re-evaluate elderly drivers is something I don't understand either. Looks like there is some serious damage done there, what a mess. Sorry to see this.

Its easy to say that when you are young.....there are plenty of elderly drivers that are much safer than young ones

And there is a good reason why there is a lot of push back against retesting elderly drivers....its called the AARP and they are extremely powerful and let me say that the seniors are one of the few groups that constantly vote in every election.....politicans know to not mess with their senior votes

68rssscamaro · 05-14-2016, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Windycity

Its easy to say that when you are young.....there are plenty of elderly drivers that are much safer than young ones

And there is a good reason why there is a lot of push back against retesting elderly drivers....its called the AARP and they are extremely powerful and let me say that the seniors are one of the few groups that constantly vote in every election.....politicans know to not mess with their senior votes

Thanks but I love how you assume I am young....

Windycity · 05-14-2016, 10:37 PM

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Thanks but I love how you assume I am young....

Ok so at what age are you giving up your Liscense? What age do you think people should stop driving?

05-14-2016, 04:19 PM	#43
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