it hurts

[Thrillz]

Originally Posted by Rockmont

Hi Sean. I understand your point of view, but there is a reason this is happening.

Dealer buy cars @ auction for two reasons.

1. If they have no allocation.

2. It's a hot car that will sell.

Don't blame the dealer in that instance. The dealer isn't making all that much profit if they are buying a Camaro @ auction, and selling it for as much as $2,500 over the original MSRP.

If the dealer buys the car at auction, they are not paying the original invoice amount they would normally pay to GM. They buy @ a little over MSRP. In those cases they HAVE TO mark the car to make any money at all, yes?

Blame the dealer that has an available Camaro that they paid invoice for from the factory, and STILL want $2,500 over MSRP.

I understand all of that but at the end of the day you are still taking advantage of your customers and the almighty buck is your top priority not your customer. You still have options if you have the new equinox you can offer that for a camaro on dealer trade and sell it to them for MSRP. But nope the greedy ones sell the equinox then buy the camaro's at auction and the customer pays a huge premium for it. Here's a thought put yourself in your customers shoes and do whats best for them not your wallet. Go read Camaroscottys posts and you might learn a thing or two about how to take of your customers. And you guys wonder why you are in the mess your in you still don get it

[Frank in MD]

Originally Posted by Thrillz

I understand all of that but at the end of the day you are still taking advantage of your customers and the almighty buck is your top priority not your customer. You still have options if you have the new equinox you can offer that for a camaro on dealer trade and sell it to them for MSRP. But nope the greedy ones sell the equinox then buy the camaro's at auction and the customer pays a huge premium for it. Any dealer i deal with who charge's over MSRP i will never deal with them again period.

Whoa. I'm unsurewhat you intend when you post "you are still taking advantage of your customers and the almighty buck is your top priority not your customer". Neither I, nor my organization is "taking advantage" of customers. I hope you didn't mean to imply that I or my organization does that. If that is how you meant it, I resent that.

Will my dealer DX a car to get one that we don't have? Yes, of course. All dealers do that. We still sell that car for the same as what we normally do, and the customer keeps all incentives they qualify for.

The rest of your post does not make much sense. DX'ing an Equinox and buying a car @ auction are two very different things.

I'll try one more time to explain w/ logic and reasoning.

If your local dealer has no Camaros at all, how is it "taking advantage" of a customer if they try to get one to sell?

[Thrillz]

Originally Posted by Rockmont

Whoa. I'm unsurewhat you intend when you post "you are still taking advantage of your customers and the almighty buck is your top priority not your customer". Neither I, nor my organization is "taking advantage" of customers. I hope you didn't mean to imply that I or my organization does that. If that is how you meant it, I resent that.

Will my dealer DX a car to get one that we don't have? Yes, of course. All dealers do that. We still sell that car for the same as what we normally do, and the customer keeps all incentives they qualify for.

The rest of your post does not make much sense. DX'ing an Equinox and buying a car @ auction are two very different things.

I'll try one more time to explain w/ logic and reasoning.

If your local dealer has no Camaros at all, how is it "taking advantage" of a customer if they try to get one to sell?

Let me ask you this. A customer comes in and you have a auction car on your lot that you over paid for then have to charge well over MSRP to make a profit. Do you explain to your customer the price and why its well over MSRP?? . You have to understand from our point of view GM has a popular car and instead of dealers using this car as a tool to gain new customers and relationships what do dealers do. There greed gets the better part of them after all that gone on with in the industry. On top of that these same people who bailed out GM (yes the tax payers bailed out GM) who want a little fun in there lives have to over pay for a car just because its popular I personally dont know you or how your dealership operates so if i insulted you in any way it wasnt meant to be that way. To give you an idea how much i am a GM fan i build toyota cars for a living and have never put one on my driveway and to this day drive only GM cars.

[Frank in MD]

We'll just agree to disagree for the sake of everyones sanity, and so that this thread can remain open for everyone to participate. After all, if you still don't understand what it is that I'm saying after more than two attempts, making the point yet again won't make a difference.

I do not take offense if you didn't mean it that way. No harm, no foul. Thank you for supporting GM, we all appreciate your valuable business.

[Partick]

Well I was one of the unfortunate ones who agreed to a markup back in April when I ordered mine. It wasn't until I starting stalking this site that I realized I got hosed. Went back to the dealer and gave them a bad time about it and told them to check this site. Sales manager said they would make it right and so far they've paid for my tinting, first oil and differential fluid change and washed/detailed it for me. Might not ever get the full value of the overpricing but I'm satisfied with how they responded and I'll continue to do business with them.

[mjlash22]

Just the typical salesmen vs customer feud.

[Alfieboy]

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

I can order one today! I have LT / RS allocation....even with the constraint. I can ship

There ya go!

[tones2SS]

Originally Posted by rowerybo

The exact car I wanted is coming into a local dealer. Aqua Blue 2LT RS auto.
only setback, $5000 premium and they won't budge.

That sucks. Stuff like that pisses me off.
I hope that car sits on the lot forever!!!

[Mayhem Matt]

That's BS ... there's plenty of dealerships that will sell you at sticker ...

[hisandhers]

Originally Posted by rowerybo

The exact car I wanted is coming into a local dealer. Aqua Blue 2LT RS auto.
only setback, $5000 premium and they won't budge.

Where in FL are you? Stingray Chevrolet in Plant City (just east of Tampa) has a Aqua Blue 2SS on the lot. They sell their cars at MSRP and only have a $99 dealer fee.

That's where I bought mine a few months ago... liked them so much I bought a new Suburban at the same time.

[Speedfreak]

Originally Posted by Rockmont

Whoa. I'm unsurewhat you intend when you post "you are still taking advantage of your customers and the almighty buck is your top priority not your customer". Neither I, nor my organization is "taking advantage" of customers. I hope you didn't mean to imply that I or my organization does that. If that is how you meant it, I resent that.

Will my dealer DX a car to get one that we don't have? Yes, of course. All dealers do that. We still sell that car for the same as what we normally do, and the customer keeps all incentives they qualify for.

The rest of your post does not make much sense. DX'ing an Equinox and buying a car @ auction are two very different things.

I'll try one more time to explain w/ logic and reasoning.

If your local dealer has no Camaros at all, how is it "taking advantage" of a customer if they try to get one to sell?

When the 30th Anniversary Trans Am came out Northern dealers were buying them from Florida dealers at or above MSRP, shipping them up north and selling for a profit. If they have a buyer willing to pay the money who can blame them? Yea it sucks for the average guy but take 5 min and do some research, there are plenty of dealers who look to and see the value in building a customer relationship.

Originally Posted by hisandhers

Where in FL are you? Stingray Chevrolet in Plant City (just east of Tampa) has a Aqua Blue 2SS on the lot. They sell their cars at MSRP and only have a $99 dealer fee.

That's where I bought mine a few months ago... liked them so much I bought a new Suburban at the same time.

That place has like 20k cars on the lot I been by a few times and saw no Camro's though :(

[zerolm]

The car I mentioned earlier in this thread ($1500 over plus $595 dealer fee) Is still sitting in front of the dealer 1 week later. Seems as if they sold a grand total of 0 camaro's over the weekend, even though they have a few. I think we are in the process of demand falling of a little, and so will the price...

[CloudXTC]

call GM marketing department, tell them the options you want and they will search the country for your build and tell you wehre is the closest one and the cost...

[HDDAN]

Originally Posted by rowerybo

The exact car I wanted is coming into a local dealer. Aqua Blue 2LT RS auto.
only setback, $5000 premium and they won't budge.

I know of four dealerships around Boston with multiple Camaros at each one of them. they are out of season around here right now and I am sure that you can get MSRP or better. Contact me and I will tell you where. you can buy it here and put on your 1,500 break in miles on the way home. The dealership that I go to has 2 SS's and an LT in their showroom.