FOR CHRISTS SAKE CAN WE PLEASE STOP THE CRYING?

[Punk_rider]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

I never said it was a Limited edition, but threats like you made fall on deaf ears, one person or even the handfull here saying that they will buy something else if GM don't do this or that won't make GM change their mind.
A kind word with a suggestion will go much farther (and many have done just that and that is good). There will still be plenty of buyers out there that will love it just as it is..

anyways if they brought out every concieveable model right off the bat then what would the entice buyers with in 2011...2012...2013.... Gotta leave them wanting more....

That is what is wrong with society now, we expect instant gratification, we want it all and we want it now... it ain't gonna happen people.

First degree ...

Once for all: my sig is not THAT serious! Stop thinking I feel like GM is scared of my sig!

Out of that what you say makes totally sense and is pretty wise and smart.

However, life's too short too wait. And common guys, we're on a forum, saying "I hate that" is as useless as the ones saying" thank you chevy I love that".

Mr Chevy doesn't give a damn, he cares about his break even point. That's all.

We "whiners" as some call us are NOT camaro haters, we don't want you to hate this or that with us. We are just somehow disappointed people who feel like they need to express this disappointment.

Just like you (not you personnally) feel like expressing your joy.

I don't ask "you" to hate this or that. Don't ask me to hate this or that. And we know that nothing will change because of this forum.

[rgrizzard]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

Well by building it they are GIVING you a chance to buy a Camaro...
GM ain't Burger King... You can't always have it "Your Way"

I'm sorry I thought they needed my money....... By the looks of their last quarterly earnings I think they do...

I've always believed in power to the buyer(capitalism) not the seller(socialsim).
Don't get me wrong I like the car but ala carte is the way to go!

For future reference BK sux!!!

[Punk_rider]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

no but ur crying about it so much and stating that you're going to buy a GT500 several times through out the forums if you don't get it. so no it wasn't just your sig that I was quoting it's you on several posts have said it. it's old and annoying. get a GT500 already and stop crying.

I guess that's a free forum and unless I insult anyone (like you did with me), I have the right to express my disappointment as often as I want without your permission.

If a moderator feels like we "whiners" are killing the forum, then they will ban me. Until then, I'll express how I feel, you liking it or not.

Sorry dude. No agressivity in my post towards you, just begging for free speech. I don't speak bad, I'm not hateful, I dont insult, I don't spam ... I really don't understand what's the problem out of you not agreeing with me ...

I should get out the forum for a moment, cause since the unveil, looks like there is some "chase" of people who may have criticisms to make about the camaro ... I'm not here to justify about what I think every second.

Have fun between guys who agree with each other.

[jmliptak]

Originally Posted by rgrizzard

I'm sorry I thought they needed my money....... By the looks of their last quarterly earnings I think they do...

I've always believed in power to the buyer(capitalism) not the seller(socialsim).
Don't get me wrong I like the car but ala carte is the way to go!

Ala carte from the factory would significantly INCREASE the cost of the car...When you limit the number of combinations you make them easier to assemble and you buy or make the options in volume and drive the price of them down. They also increase quality that way as well.It a classic tradeoff, and bundling options and limiting variations on the assembly line is one of the reasons cars have not gone up more in price. Look at every other car in similar price range and I think you see what I am talking about. EVERYBODY does it for that reason.

The cool thing is that GM is selling lots of OTHER options, and others will follow suit. That lets you buy what YOU want and have it installed. If they built each car from the ground up ala carte I know I would never be able to afford one.

[Punk_rider]

Originally Posted by scotchsride09

Go buy a GT if you have to... the Mustang is an icon too, I won't fault you for that... but a legend is back, and that's good enough for me.

Just for the point: we (few) who may go buy a gT500 don't admit the "go buy it and that's it". Because we have set high expectations in the Camaro and buying a GT500 would be more like marrying a woman while loving another ...

We don't hate the camaro, we are somehow disappointed lovers who still think there's something to do to save the love before it's really over.

Originally Posted by jmliptak

Ala carte from the factory would significantly INCREASE the cost of the car...When you limit the number of combinations you make them easier to assemble and you buy or make the options in volume and drive the price of them down. They also increase quality that way as well.It a classic tradeoff, and bundling options and limiting variations on the assembly line is one of the reasons cars have not gone up more in price. Look at every other car in similar price range and I think you see what I am talking about. EVERYBODY does it for that reason.

The cool thing is that GM is selling lots of OTHER options, and others will follow suit. That lets you buy what YOU want and have it installed. If they built each car from the ground up ala carte I know I would never be able to afford one.

Maybe they could go on a big production with LT/SS and offer an "à la carte" model ... the Z28?

(yes, I'm obsessed! )

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by Punk_rider

....would be more like marrying a woman while loving another ...

That's done all the time....

Originally Posted by Punk_rider

Just for the point: we (few) who may go buy a gT500 don't admit the "go buy it and that's it". Because we have set high expectations in the Camaro and buying a GT500 would be more like marrying a woman while loving another ...

We don't hate the camaro, we are somehow disappointed lovers who still think there's something to do to save the love before it's really over.

I understand your point but there is not enough disappointment to go out and buy a Mustang if you ask me. Pricing may change my mind but when I compare the V6 and V8 cars, Camaro looks reeeeeeeeeely good!

[jmliptak]

Originally Posted by Punk_rider

Maybe they could go on a big production with LT/SS and offer an "à la carte" model ... the Z28?

(yes, I'm obsessed! )

I hear ya, but only J D Rockefeller might be able to afford one. S

cott keeps saying the Camaro is affordable performance, so they are trying to stick to that. I would gladly accept a Z28 with a 550hp blown motor that only comes ONE way at a reasonable price......And then deal with the rest in the aftermarket, may cost me or you more to do that individually, but it is likely one of the reasons that the car can exist at all....So I choose to live with that problem...When I got my 98 SS it was before GM had certified the SLP options for warrant (on the first truck full of them that left the factory), so I had to have the dealer install the exhaust and Hurst, and it cost a little more but it was still covered under warranty, so its not he worst way to do it....

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Punk_rider

I guess that's a free forum and unless I insult anyone (like you did with me), I have the right to express my disappointment as often as I want without your permission.

If a moderator feels like we "whiners" are killing the forum, then they will ban me. Until then, I'll express how I feel, you liking it or not.

Sorry dude. No agressivity in my post towards you, just begging for free speech. I don't speak bad, I'm not hateful, I dont insult, I don't spam ... I really don't understand what's the problem out of you not agreeing with me ...

I should get out the forum for a moment, cause since the unveil, looks like there is some "chase" of people who may have criticisms to make about the camaro ... I'm not here to justify about what I think every second.

Have fun between guys who agree with each other.

A lot of people are disappointed in things but you keep stating about the GT500 and how you're going to get one if. . . that gets old real quick. then to put it in your sig is like slapping people in the face that do like the car and accept it for what it is. I for one have been let down a little. but never taken it as far as I'm going to go buy such and such if. . .that's childish in nature. that's giving an ultimatum to a car company for not producing something that hasn't been yet proven to be profitable.

yes this forum is made up for speaking our minds but honestly for the good of the whole both of us probably should refrain from talking about the Z28 for a while.

I'm tired of people categorizing me with the ones that like it because I'm not complaining with them. you've said your piece about the car and you should let it go. posting it multiple times on this bored is doing no one good. not even you.

with that being said I apologize to the rest of you and for how I've acted towards punk_rider. And like him I'm probably not going to come on the boards for a while because of all the trolls and whiners. I am not the type of person to just sit back and listen. So you all have fun and take care.

[The_Blur]

Maybe there should be a Camaro5 checklist of Z28 features that would make the SS worthy of a Z28 badge. We could compile a list once we get prices and more options. Then, those who deserve a Z28 badge will order them with no "ricer" accusations. For example, a Z28 would have to meet a certain performance expectation, proven on a dyno, and feature certain specific parts.

[Punk_rider]

Originally Posted by Hylton

I understand your point but there is not enough disappointment to go out and buy a Mustang if you ask me. Pricing may change my mind but when I compare the V6 and V8 cars, Camaro looks reeeeeeeeeely good!

Yes, I hear you. This is why I won't make any decision before knowing everything.

I still love the camaro, but that GT500 wears high heels, short skirt and deep cleavage to try to get me ...

But I still love the camaro ... I'm mixed between love, disappointment and something like being a little tired to wait. This is nervous, I need to know what to do of my money and not regretting it

But for sure, the maro beats the mustang (which is not GT500) in every way to me.

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

A lot of people are disappointed in things but you keep stating about the GT500 and how you're going to get one if. . . that gets old real quick. then to put it in your sig is like slapping people in the face that do like the car and accept it for what it is. I for one have been let down a little. but never taken it as far as I'm going to go buy such and such if. . .that's childish in nature. that's giving an ultimatum to a car company for not producing something that hasn't been yet proven to be profitable.

yes this forum is made up for speaking our minds but honestly for the good of the whole both of us probably should refrain from talking about the Z28 for a while.

I'm tired of people categorizing me with the ones that like it because I'm not complaining with them. you've said your piece about the car and you should let it go. posting it multiple times on this bored is doing no one good. not even you.

with that being said I apologize to the rest of you and for how I've acted towards punk_rider. And like him I'm probably not going to come on the boards for a while because of all the trolls and whiners. I am not the type of person to just sit back and listen. So you all have fun and take care.

Ok, forget it, i'll edit my sig, this isn't meant to be offensive. That was supposed to be somehow "spicy funny". But it's not. Let's forget it.

Still friends.

[joes3rdcamaro82/91/2010]

Originally Posted by Punk_rider

Well .. insignficant ... TO YOU.

If I or others complain, it's not about insignificant things ... if we care, it's cause we think it's significant.

If you're happy with a SS with "only" 400 hp, I 'm really pleased you'va found your heaven. But I do not. I want a supercharged, otherwise, this will be just like marrying a top model who's dumb.

She's pretty, real sweet to show to your friends, but once you're alone and talk to her ... damn ... that's hell!

This is just MY opinion, but this is NOT insignificant. Cause I care.

+1

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

Maybe there should be a Camaro5 checklist of Z28 features that would make the SS worthy of a Z28 badge. We could compile a list once we get prices and more options. Then, those who deserve a Z28 badge will order them with no "ricer" accusations. For example, a Z28 would have to meet a certain performance expectation, proven on a dyno, and feature certain specific parts.

best idea all week. except for doubling my money in the stock market. ..

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

A lot of people are disappointed in things but you keep stating about the GT500 and how you're going to get one if. . . that gets old real quick. then to put it in your sig is like slapping people in the face that do like the car and accept it for what it is. I for one have been let down a little. but never taken it as far as I'm going to go buy such and such if. . .that's childish in nature. that's giving an ultimatum to a car company for not producing something that hasn't been yet proven to be profitable.

yes this forum is made up for speaking our minds but honestly for the good of the whole both of us probably should refrain from talking about the Z28 for a while.

I'm tired of people categorizing me with the ones that like it because I'm not complaining with them. you've said your piece about the car and you should let it go. posting it multiple times on this bored is doing no one good. not even you.

with that being said I apologize to the rest of you and for how I've acted towards punk_rider. And like him I'm probably not going to come on the boards for a while because of all the trolls and whiners. I am not the type of person to just sit back and listen. So you all have fun and take care.

Don't go anywhere man! You are able to express your concerns well regarding the Z/28 while still being a fan of the new Camaro. Everyone who reads your stuff understands this. I'd like to encourage guys like you to speak up!

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Hylton

Don't go anywhere man! You are able to express your concerns well regarding the Z/28 while still being a fan of the new Camaro. Everyone who reads your stuff understands this. I'd like to encourage guys like you to speak up!

my point is I have said my piece about the Z28. That was when the article was misquoting an interview. once that was fixed and cleared up I decided to keep the faith. yes I'm disappointed. but remember to keep the faith.