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FasNuf · 11-04-2020, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicster

I am still looking for a good and reliable tuner around the Seattle area, if anyone has a suggestion please let me know. I will not use Wongs again!

On a side note, was able to schmooze the wife into letting me build a new Dart 427ci engine with a Magnuson TVS2650R Supercharger.

Hope to pick up the block and lower end on black friday, looking for some good sales!

Awesome Vic,
I hope you create a build thread on that new engine!

FasNuf · 11-06-2020, 10:44 AM

Wow Vic, I wish I had your troubles! LOL.
Hard choice and I dont know much about either. I understand the Kong is more like a direct fit replacement so if it were me and I had money bags laying around, I would do the Kongs for the convenience.

PeteD · 11-07-2020, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicster

Installing a piston to check clearances and deck height. Then installed oil squirters, marked pistons and notched them for clearance. Installing piston rings, installing pistons and torqued rod bolts by measuring bolt stretch, worked out to 100ftlbs. Installing aluminum rear galley plug and cover I used this nifty guide.

LOL...Engine building in the living room. Reminds me of the Andy Griffith episode when Goober took the sheriff's car apart and put it back together again in the sheriff's office.

RobZL1 · 11-08-2020, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicster

Found that the magnuson 2650 for gen5 camaro's does not fit under the hood and you have to remove the windshield wiper assy. and cut the fire wall.
But found that the Kong 2650 does! So have to update my plans.
Now to choose between the Kong 2650 and the Whipple 2.9...

Throw that new Kong 3100 on there for the heck of it.

Or the Harrop V-max.

kburlar · 11-11-2020, 01:03 PM

Wow. What a great read. Thanks for sharing your story. Your skills are amazing. Can't wait to read more. Thanks.

brick59 · 11-17-2020, 06:20 AM

Did Kong give a price for the 3100?

eLeSthree · 12-03-2020, 05:42 AM

You are a mad man! I'll be using your build thread as Exhibit A in my defense, the next time my wife says I am obsessed with my car. No no, this is what obsessed looks like right here honey. You are a lucky man. Good for you.

Not that I have anything against a nice Dart 427, but you could have strapped the kong to your current shortblock and reliably made 1000whp. Hell you probably could have done it on the stock LSA.

Good luck with it. Deburr as much as you can, because you can really feel the extra weight up front. It's not ideal.

Wi53072 · 01-11-2021, 11:29 PM

Wow Vic amazing work!

eLeSthree · 01-19-2021, 12:51 PM

Coming along nicely. You are a brave man drilling into a brand new block like that! Did you get your windage tray kit from Dart?

Yea, that chipping around the lifter window isn't pretty. I wonder if mine is like that. Can't tell since the heads were bolted on when it showed up, and its less apparent from the valley side view. Maybe its part of the additional machining process that TMS does to the aftermarket blocks. Let me look through my pics. I dont see it hurting anything though.

Oh, and the TMS dart shortblocks dont use a chain dampner at all. FYI.

eLeSthree · 01-20-2021, 09:57 AM

oooh nice color cam. Is that an upgraded core?

Couple questions...

What does the moly spray and bake do?

What's the theory behind removing the oil pressure relief valve? I left mine in place, but my oil pressure is great. Once warmed up I see 49-50psi at idle and 62psi at 7000rpms. Using the melling high pressure pump that comes with the tms longblock.

eLeSthree · 01-21-2021, 05:14 AM

I follow on the baking process, I guess I don't understand how coating it with moly helps. I'm assuming its some type of protectant, just curious. Carry on.

RobZL1 · 02-23-2021, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicster

Yeah!! Called Callies and ordered my crank today. A Magnum CCW, 8 counter weight, 1930 bob weight, 8 bolt flange for LSA clutch and 58 tooth reluctor ring. Will take 8 to 10 weeks to get it (maybe longer) as they do not have a core in stock.

Side note sales rep. from Callies is not impressed with the Boostline rods and wanted me to use the Ultra Enforcer rods. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

I think the sales rep wants you to buy more Callies product...

eLeSthree · 03-12-2021, 06:01 AM

Are those the 69cc 6 bolt head? I'm sorry I cant recall your piston spec, what compression ratio will that put you at?

Ds98formula · 03-25-2021, 04:51 PM

Wow awesome thread so far. I may have missed it but did you ever dyno the car with the current motor that you built in it?

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11-06-2020, 10:44 AM	#44
FasNuf Drives: 2014 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,659 View My Garage	Wow Vic, I wish I had your troubles! LOL. Hard choice and I dont know much about either. I understand the Kong is more like a direct fit replacement so if it were me and I had money bags laying around, I would do the Kongs for the convenience. __________________ . . . . https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgN...etl17hA/videos

11-11-2020, 01:03 PM	#47
kburlar Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Connecticut Posts: 183	Wow. What a great read. Thanks for sharing your story. Your skills are amazing. Can't wait to read more. Thanks. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS. Summit White. 1 7/8" 304 Dynatech Stainless Headers with High Flow Cats and Ceramic Coating, Cold Air Inductions Intake System with Scoop, SCT X3 Programmer, Moroso Catch Can, Heater Hose Upgrade 3.91 Gears, Eaton TrueTrac Posi, Billet Main Caps, Ported Throttle Body 1LE Suspension. ZL1 Springs, 2.9L Whipple Ssupercharger

11-17-2020, 06:20 AM	#48
brick59 Sucker Punch Drives: 2013 Black ZL1, 2022 Silverado ZR2 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: N.E. Ohio Posts: 281	Did Kong give a price for the 3100? __________________ 427 Dart SHP Pro LS Block, Callies Magnum Crank, Callies Ultra I Beam Rods, Diamond Pistons, AGP twin Turbos 6865, Mast heads, Cam Motion LLR cam, Morel tie bar lifters, Crower roller rockers, NW 103MM TB, ID2600 XDS, Fore Triple, DSX, E85, ARH Turbo Headers, Corsa, Jakes stage 5 4L80, Circle D, RPM Roll Bar, BMR, Carlyle Racing 15" conversion kit.

12-03-2020, 05:42 AM	#49
eLeSthree Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 6sp Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Drivers Seat Posts: 1,905	You are a mad man! I'll be using your build thread as Exhibit A in my defense, the next time my wife says I am obsessed with my car. No no, this is what obsessed looks like right here honey. You are a lucky man. Good for you. Not that I have anything against a nice Dart 427, but you could have strapped the kong to your current shortblock and reliably made 1000whp. Hell you probably could have done it on the stock LSA. Good luck with it. Deburr as much as you can, because you can really feel the extra weight up front. It's not ideal. __________________ 2011 Camaro SS---SOLD TMS Dart 427 FED M311s, ESS Tuning G4 Blower, DSX Triple FP Assembly, DSX FF, FIC1300, Mcleod RXT 1200HD, Edlebrock Pro Flo XT 1158whp 1017wtq. 2010 CTS-V A6 - "Stock" SOLD 630whp 658wtq 2024 F-150 RCSB 5.0 4x4 waiting for tunes...

01-11-2021, 11:29 PM	#50
Wi53072 Drives: 2012 ZL1 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 9	Wow Vic amazing work!

01-19-2021, 12:51 PM	#51
eLeSthree Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 6sp Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Drivers Seat Posts: 1,905	Coming along nicely. You are a brave man drilling into a brand new block like that! Did you get your windage tray kit from Dart? Yea, that chipping around the lifter window isn't pretty. I wonder if mine is like that. Can't tell since the heads were bolted on when it showed up, and its less apparent from the valley side view. Maybe its part of the additional machining process that TMS does to the aftermarket blocks. Let me look through my pics. I dont see it hurting anything though. Oh, and the TMS dart shortblocks dont use a chain dampner at all. FYI. __________________ 2011 Camaro SS---SOLD TMS Dart 427 FED M311s, ESS Tuning G4 Blower, DSX Triple FP Assembly, DSX FF, FIC1300, Mcleod RXT 1200HD, Edlebrock Pro Flo XT 1158whp 1017wtq. 2010 CTS-V A6 - "Stock" SOLD 630whp 658wtq 2024 F-150 RCSB 5.0 4x4 waiting for tunes...

01-20-2021, 09:57 AM	#52
eLeSthree Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 6sp Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Drivers Seat Posts: 1,905	oooh nice color cam. Is that an upgraded core? Couple questions... What does the moly spray and bake do? What's the theory behind removing the oil pressure relief valve? I left mine in place, but my oil pressure is great. Once warmed up I see 49-50psi at idle and 62psi at 7000rpms. Using the melling high pressure pump that comes with the tms longblock. __________________ 2011 Camaro SS---SOLD TMS Dart 427 FED M311s, ESS Tuning G4 Blower, DSX Triple FP Assembly, DSX FF, FIC1300, Mcleod RXT 1200HD, Edlebrock Pro Flo XT 1158whp 1017wtq. 2010 CTS-V A6 - "Stock" SOLD 630whp 658wtq 2024 F-150 RCSB 5.0 4x4 waiting for tunes...

01-21-2021, 05:14 AM	#53
eLeSthree Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 6sp Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Drivers Seat Posts: 1,905	I follow on the baking process, I guess I don't understand how coating it with moly helps. I'm assuming its some type of protectant, just curious. Carry on. __________________ 2011 Camaro SS---SOLD TMS Dart 427 FED M311s, ESS Tuning G4 Blower, DSX Triple FP Assembly, DSX FF, FIC1300, Mcleod RXT 1200HD, Edlebrock Pro Flo XT 1158whp 1017wtq. 2010 CTS-V A6 - "Stock" SOLD 630whp 658wtq 2024 F-150 RCSB 5.0 4x4 waiting for tunes...

03-12-2021, 06:01 AM	#55
eLeSthree Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 6sp Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Drivers Seat Posts: 1,905	Are those the 69cc 6 bolt head? I'm sorry I cant recall your piston spec, what compression ratio will that put you at? __________________ 2011 Camaro SS---SOLD TMS Dart 427 FED M311s, ESS Tuning G4 Blower, DSX Triple FP Assembly, DSX FF, FIC1300, Mcleod RXT 1200HD, Edlebrock Pro Flo XT 1158whp 1017wtq. 2010 CTS-V A6 - "Stock" SOLD 630whp 658wtq 2024 F-150 RCSB 5.0 4x4 waiting for tunes...

03-25-2021, 04:51 PM	#56
Ds98formula Drives: 2015 M6 ZL1, 2012 silverado Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Chicago Posts: 103	Wow awesome thread so far. I may have missed it but did you ever dyno the car with the current motor that you built in it? __________________ 2015 M6 ZL1 Bright Yellow: Cold Aid Inductions intake, 2.55 Griptec pulley,Kooks headers with high flow cats, Borla Atak cat back, ID1050's, Aux pump, Flex Fuel sensor 635whp 633wtq