Question for the C5 Law enforcement officers

[Banshee]

Originally Posted by Big Brunsy

If your x-wifes boyfriend is a police officer, and pulls you over for bullshit reasons (crowding the yellow line) can that be considered harassment? or would it hafta happen several times b4 one can say anything?

There is more to this story than what is posted....JMO.

To answer your question in a roundabout way...Document dates and EXACT times. Take a video camera with you wherever you go. Loitering is enforcable if posted by signage or without if certain criteria is met.

There is more to this than is not being divulged. Yes, some cops are pricks, but without hearing what your ex and her new cop boyfriend have to say, I can only say there is more to this.

On its face, the stop and the frequent contact is a cause for concern and can be address VIA a formal complaint. I would make a formal complaint to his immediate supervisor first and see where that goes. After that, if it continues, go to the Chief of Police. If that does not work, go to the State Police as they oversee any municipal employee wrongdoing.

First, what does your driving record look like? any criminal scrapes? You can correlate no tickets or contacts in 5 years as a mean average to 3 contacts from your ex cop BF as circumstantial and very good grounds as harassment.

[Pauls69RSSS]

Steve Dallas,

Just a word of caution, Washington is a two-party consent state as well. That means you must have the permission of the other party to record them in audio recordings. When we (LEO's) advise you that you are being recorded on a stop the courts have ruled that you don't have to say anything, but you are, by rule, giving consent.

I personally would not want to be on the wrong end of that law. If you want it changed, go to your legislator and tell him you think it's antiquated. They are the ones that can change it, not the cops.

Paul

[DiverRich]

Originally Posted by Banshee

If that does not work, go to the State Police as they oversee any municipal employee wrongdoing.

That's weird. In Oregon no agency has any more or less authority than another. In other words the State Police don't automatically have any authority over muni-cops. In fact our differences are very little and our jurisdictions are nearly identical (the State Police has the additional responsibility over the lottery for example but county and muni agencies do not.)

[Big Brunsy]

Originally Posted by Banshee

There is more to this story than what is posted....JMO.

To answer your question in a roundabout way...Document dates and EXACT times. Take a video camera with you wherever you go. Loitering is enforcable if posted by signage or without if certain criteria is met.

There is more to this than is not being divulged. Yes, some cops are pricks, but without hearing what your ex and her new cop boyfriend have to say, I can only say there is more to this.

On its face, the stop and the frequent contact is a cause for concern and can be address VIA a formal complaint. I would make a formal complaint to his immediate supervisor first and see where that goes. After that, if it continues, go to the Chief of Police. If that does not work, go to the State Police as they oversee any municipal employee wrongdoing.

First, what does your driving record look like? any criminal scrapes? You can correlate no tickets or contacts in 5 years as a mean average to 3 contacts from your ex cop BF as circumstantial and very good grounds as harassment.

don't know what more there could be to the story...I don't like him and he don't like me. that being said what happens off duty should not be carried over to what happens on duty. I have made it perfectly clear I don't like him, and he don't like me. As for my criminal background: there isn't one, only minor traffic violations here and there....I've had 2 tickets in the past 5 years, one speeding and one for a "rolling stop" as the police like to call it.

[TAG UR IT]

"Crowding the line" is not a traffic infraction. I don't care where you are from.

First, ask the prosecutor in the court where this supposed traffic infraction is located in your states traffic code. THIS, I'd like to see. If I could pull people over and write them for "crowding the line," then my goodness....

Once the ticket is dismissed, if you want, you can file a complaint. It will probably not go anywhere. One time is one time. IA won't do anything....just to say... Besides, all he has to say is he didn't know who you were when he got behind you...and how would anyone prove or disprove if he knew? I know...but, I'm only saying... And...what if he really didn't know? One thing officers have is discression in whether or not to write a ticket. Officers don't HAVE to. The fact that he did....well, ...

[Big Brunsy]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

"Crowding the line" is not a traffic infraction. I don't care where you are from.

First, ask the prosecutor in the court where this supposed traffic infraction is located in your states traffic code. THIS, I'd like to see. If I could pull people over and write them for "crowding the line," then my goodness....

Once the ticket is dismissed, if you want, you can file a complaint. It will probably not go anywhere. One time is one time. IA won't do anything....just to say... Besides, all he has to say is he didn't know who you were when he got behind you...and how would anyone prove or disprove if he knew? I know...but, I'm only saying... And...what if he really didn't know? One thing officers have is discression in whether or not to write a ticket. Officers don't HAVE to. The fact that he did....well, ...

EVERYONE around here knows it's me....I have my name on my lisence plate....and didn't write me a ticket for it....just acted like jerk and told me he could, and that he could also write me up for driving 3mph over the limit

[TAG UR IT]

If that's the case, you have no base for a complaint.

Be happy that he gave you a warning. The fact that he told you he "could write you a ticket for it," is the officer giving you a verbal warning so you know what you did wrong. People don't usually like when they are told they are wrong. Hence...him "acting like a jerk." Due to your "knowing him," you were probably already prepared for more of a confrontational situation.

To be quite honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he wrote you for everything he could just because he had read on a forum that you wanted to complain on him....for a warning.

If you get pulled over by him again and this time he actually writes you a citation, remember this...he gave you a warning the first time. If you complain, he has both legs to stand on. "Yeah sarge...I stopped him for x and told him him to knock it off or he WOULD get a ticket. It's not my fault that I happened to run across him again and there he was....doing the same thing. Apparently, he took my warning with a grain of salt. So, yeah...I wrote him...and noticed some other violations too."

His sarge will back him up on it too.

I'm trying to remember the case....

Atwater vs City of Lago Vista

Long story short...an officer can arrest for a traffic infraction. In Texas, the only infractions we can not arrest on are open container and speeding. All others, we can arrest on. So, if he REALLY wanted to be a jerk, rather than give you a warning, he could arrest you. Just fyi...

So, obey the traffic law and you will be fine. If he begins a regular routine of following you, make note of it and obviously complain. IA will be able to figure all that out quickly....I already know how they'd figure it out.

[KDInTheWind63]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

If that's the case, you have no base for a complaint.

Atwater vs City of Lago Vista

Long story short...an officer can arrest for a traffic infraction. In Texas, the only infractions we can not arrest on are open container and speeding. All others, we can arrest on. So, if he REALLY wanted to be a jerk, rather than give you a warning, he could arrest you. Just fyi...

So, obey the traffic law and you will be fine. If he begins a regular routine of following you, make note of it and obviously complain. IA will be able to figure all that out quickly....I already know how they'd figure it out.

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I thought they could arrest you for open container in Texas

[TAG UR IT]

Nope. Speeding and open container...the ONLY two traffic infractions an officer can not arrest on.