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Old 05-27-2010, 07:06 PM   #43
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Well, again. Camaro was 2lt with RS package. (1500 added) Stang was with navi (2300 added). The rest options was similar, anyway chevy still had 20" wheels with RS package and stang standart 18". 800$ difference between rs and navi, but the price is 2.5k more. Its 1.7k difference in equal cars.
The premium comes with 19s standard (biggest avail on the mustang because it IS a smaller car afterall), looking at it I guess the Mustang probabl had the backup Camera also which is another 395. So that is AT LEAST 2700 in things the Mustang has and the Camaro cannot get get so it is actually $200 cheaper on more equal footing and possibly less, no way to know though because they didn't break it down in the article
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Old 05-27-2010, 07:16 PM   #44
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First of all, premium comes with 17's standart. 19's not even in a list of offer. Second, Mustang didnt have camera. It has Mustang Club of America appearance package, which is include 18"s and navi. This with remote start, headlamps, heated seats and so on, which is included in LT2 camaro brings us to 33k of mustang price. What 2700 are u talking about, i cant understand

Remove RS package from camaro( it will still have 19 wheels, but without spoiler and taillights) and navi from stang and ul get the same equipped cars, where camaro 1.7k cheaper.

Or even better, take 1lt (there is nothing between base and premium stangs), pay 25.7k for it and put 2k custom cloth seats, and ul be 2.5-3k cheaper.

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Old 05-27-2010, 08:54 PM   #45
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At Camaro fest in Ga I ran the autocourse with my stock 1LT RS with man 6 and smoked the doors of almost all the v8's and ran competitve times agianst the vendor prepared cars. With time only allowing me 3 runs final run was a 37.8 avg times being posted were 43-44. Put a Mustang agianst me on a road course where all around performance comes into play and they will loose every time. Ford had to make a HUGH leap in performance with their POS just to be competitive with the Camaro. Driver skill is key wether it is 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile or road racing, but with out the right equipment it means nothing. For me the right equipment is the Camaro from price, performace and style guess that why you see Camaro always on top of the list when its all done and said with regardless of who is doing the survey. Sure you see Mustang win a catagory here and there but all around you can not beat what Chevy gives you with the Camaro.
No offense but you say you can't beat what Chevy gives you with the Camaro v6?

The Mustang V6 out handles, out runs and gets better gas milage then the Camaro V6, so how does your statement hold any water? Because obviously Ford is beating what Chevy is offering with the Camaro. Motor Trend, Car and Driver, Edmond's all say the Mustang V6 is better then the Camaro V6 and just because CNN says the Camaro is a better deal, nothing can beat what Chevy is offering? You can't say the interior is better or the Exterior is better because that is all opinion but the other things I have listed are fact.
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Old 05-27-2010, 08:58 PM   #46
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Just for the sake of argument I built a Camaro 2LT RS vs a Mustang V6 Premium and optioned them up as similarly as was reasonably possible, both with manual transmission.

No need to go into detail on the features of the 2LT RS since they are common knowledge here. MSRP $29225.

The Mustang was a 202A package. Includes fog lamps, 18" polished wheels, leather seats, and Sync. I also added HID's and heated seats since these come with the Camaro, as well as 3.31 gears. No MCA package since it is appearance only, doesn't include any actual features not already available on the other models anyway, and only serves to bloat the price. MSRP $29600.

Unless I am missing something these are pretty comparably equipped vehicles, about as apples to apples as the comparison is going to get. And the difference in price is less than $400.
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Old 05-28-2010, 12:59 AM   #47
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Just for the sake of argument I built a Camaro 2LT RS vs a Mustang V6 Premium and optioned them up as similarly as was reasonably possible, both with manual transmission.

No need to go into detail on the features of the 2LT RS since they are common knowledge here. MSRP $29225.

The Mustang was a 202A package. Includes fog lamps, 18" polished wheels, leather seats, and Sync. I also added HID's and heated seats since these come with the Camaro, as well as 3.31 gears. No MCA package since it is appearance only, doesn't include any actual features not already available on the other models anyway, and only serves to bloat the price. MSRP $29600.

Unless I am missing something these are pretty comparably equipped vehicles, about as apples to apples as the comparison is going to get. And the difference in price is less than $400.
First of all, u wont take RS package, cos u wont need 20" rims, spoiler and taillights. U are already have 19"s without it and mustang only 18". If u take RS package, u will have to add in appearance of mustang and upgraded polished wheels for 1.8k. Then... U will have to add auto (as it in article), remote start (coming in 2lt) - and we have 30020 vs 28,910. Plus u will have to add Convenience and Connectivity Package equal to stang, which is standart in 2lt. Package Includes Bluetooth for phone, wireless PDIM, USB port, steering wheel mounted audio controls, leather-wrapped steering wheel, leather-wrapped shift knob and cargo convenience net, parkassistant etc. Its more then 1.5k.

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Old 05-28-2010, 01:09 AM   #48
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No offense but you say you can't beat what Chevy gives you with the Camaro v6?

The Mustang V6 out handles, out runs and gets better gas milage then the Camaro V6, so how does your statement hold any water? Because obviously Ford is beating what Chevy is offering with the Camaro. Motor Trend, Car and Driver, Edmond's all say the Mustang V6 is better then the Camaro V6 and just because CNN says the Camaro is a better deal, nothing can beat what Chevy is offering? You can't say the interior is better or the Exterior is better because that is all opinion but the other things I have listed are fact.
Definitely,musang CANT handle better with previous age Live Rear Axle. Gas millage and straight line almost the same (it is the same in a same price for the cars). And the last one... Well, u can say mustang with his terrible back end design is much better looking, then any Volkswagen on a road, for example? I will.
Thats is the same : Camaro and mustang like a dream vs rent car on the road.
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Old 05-28-2010, 02:17 AM   #49
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So there’s only one v6 on the entire forum that has trapped over 100 and the same car is the only one that has run a 13, yet every v6 mustang tested has trapped over 100 and ET as fast as 13.7.
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Was the camaro a base model with 19" rims? The problem with the camaro is most come with 20" rims. This gives mustang a torque advantage. Both mustang and camaro are similar to stock for final drive but mustang has higher trans ratio but lower axle ratio.
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Old 05-28-2010, 02:37 AM   #50
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Definitely,musang CANT handle better with previous age Live Rear Axle. Gas millage and straight line almost the same (it is the same in a same price for the cars). And the last one... Well, u can say mustang with his terrible back end design is much better looking, then any Volkswagen on a road, for example? I will.
Thats is the same : Camaro and mustang like a dream vs rent car on the road.
but the mustang DOES handle better, in all tests so far. half a second in the straight line is a lot too by the way.

as even as the v8s are, the v6s arent even close
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Old 05-28-2010, 02:47 AM   #51
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WHat "tests"??? MT fake? Please....
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Old 05-28-2010, 02:47 AM   #52
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motortrend, autoblog, edmunds, etc etc.

and whats fake about them
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Old 05-28-2010, 02:51 AM   #53
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"Handling responses were equally indifferent. Softer spring rates and slow steering made the mountain-road pursuits too much like work. To its credit, the RS was quiet, smooth, stable, and thoroughly predictable. It was quicker in the lane change than both Mustangs"

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Old 05-28-2010, 02:54 AM   #54
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from the same article about the v6 mustang

" Our test car was a Premium version, equipped with 19-inch alloy wheels and those summer Pirellis, which helped it put up the best skidpad performance of the foursome: 0.95 g. "

and lane changing isnt racing lol
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The wheels u cant get from ford... ANd where is it better then the camaro in article?
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Old 05-28-2010, 03:02 AM   #56
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they ran a 14.0 in that test @ 104, thats better than the camaro

and yes you can get those wheels, its part of the performance pack, coming end of summer

and here just for you to watch

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