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Rumbly Bumble Bee
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Interesting! I wonder if this piece acts as kind of a "silencer" of sorts similar to what Ford puts on it's Mustangs. Most Mustang owners pull the silencer or "snorkel", as it is commonly called, to get better air supply into the air box from the fender.
Thanks for posting this up!
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interesting hopefully someone in the know will chime in thanks
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SLP DID, THATS WHY THEY OFFER ONLY A BLACKWING TUBE..We have also done some testing and the stock box is not that bad with the tube replacement. Sure there are better CAI kits but this isnt a bad option for under $200.00 or for the guy that wants to remain look stock..
IMO the Halltech is still the best intake on the market
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It blocks snow and water ingestion. And seals off the sides of the condensor/radiator to force airflow through the radiator.
Ideally I'd think you'd want to keep the sides sealed off for max air flow through the radiator, and find a way for direct cold air to get to the air box area. Unless planning on driving in heavy snow, really don't need a deflector like that. |
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I'm no expert but it appears that this piece works in conjunction with the snorkel from the OEM box. I've wondered why the snorkel appears to not go anywhere except to the front of the car. If it does work with the snorkel, it draws the air through this piece to get cold air off the front of the car. the cross section of this piece doesn't appear to be big enough to feed the engine well enough though. Since the stock box is a closed system, with the snorkel the only source of fresh air, this may be another reason aftermarket systems are generally better. Add in the crappy accordian section and you see where the weak points of the OEM system are. If this is indeed the case, we can see the limitations of the SLP intake tube only setup. From the looks of this piece, I can see where some water/debris may be able to get in but I don't think it would be much worse than any other aftermarket system with water coming up from the bottom or when you remove the waterbottle. OTR CAI will also draw water/debri in from the front as well. In the end, I think it would be beneficial to remove this piece. As to the extent of the increase, I doubt you could easily quantify the gain but as I said before, more fresh air is better and being that it's FREE, why not do it.
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Well, speaking for BBK Performance, when I did the fabrication of the air filter shield for our Camaro kit, I never even noticed that intake tube. Aftermarket open filter air intake kits don't usually draw from stock inlet tubes like those. On our 2005 and up Mustang kits, that tube is removed so the filter shield will install. Any air that is drawn into the new open element filter comes from the opening at the bottom of the inner fender or the air that is blown thru the grille opening area and works it's way to the filter. Removing the rectangular fill piece on the inner fender of the Camaros would supply more cold air, but if you drive in a wet climate area, you run the risk of getting water into the filter from what the tire will throw everywhere. Using a filter that is not contained in a box, like stock, has been proven for years to help the engine breath and run better. Keeping that filter out of any situation where it might ingest water is done for warrenty and reliability reasons. We COULD make kits that put the filter on the wheel/tire side of the inner fender that will draw only cold air, but then there will be the guy who drives thru a flood and hydralics his engine from sucking up the water and sues the krap out of us for making a product that COULD cause damage if used by an airhead. Another reason CAI kits are designed like they are is so any weekend wrench turner can install it in their garage with minimal tools and a couple of cold ones. Having to disassemble the whole front end to install a CAI kit is not good marketing. Simple installation, good looks, some performance gain and affordability is what sells.
So he removed his tube, stands to reason that more cool air is entering the engine compartment with it gone. Will it enhance any CAI kit on the market? Not enough to notice or change any dyno reading. But Hey, if he thinks so then power to him. That's what hot rodding is all about!!! |
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forgot to tell you about myself my car only comes out on sunnydays .any chance of rain you will not see my car .ok if it does rain by some chance and im out im screwed .
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Interesting post. It does seem worthless to leave it on there. Looks like it would only work with stock, but I'm no expert.
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I'm with you on this one. I enjoy customizing & maximizing power as much as I do driving it afterward!
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i know no one really cares about this but if i told you i got 15 more hp you would be interested right .so i just want these companies to chime in and tell us if it would help or not .one company did say they didnt even know it was there .i dont want to put my bumper back on and then in another month these intake companies dynoed a car with out this piece and got 15hp more .those fans blowing through there i believe might give us something ..i know its not wotrh 3 hours of anybodies time to take off there bumper for 2hp more but what about 15hp .if i wasnt to busy caring about this shit i would dyno myself .but ran out of money this week .but maybe next week
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Well we have tested some of the so-called CAI and the stock box ran cooler and wanted more fuel? Again I am not saying all the CAI on the market are bad but some of them are worse than the SLP tube/Stock air box combo..
Again if it were me I would go Halltech
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I'm not sure how this guy is making any type of contribution except cluttering these forums even more than they already are. Part of the reason no one can understand the OP is because his grammar is so horrible.
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The only people that truly know what the hell it is for are the Engineers at GM who designed it.
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