Challenger V6 Beat 2010 Camaro SS?

[The_Blur]

This is your brain on drugs.

[green man]

The only chance he has is to do the TI mod...the Trade In mod, like trade it in for an SRT-8.

[PsshPlzz]

Originally Posted by green man

The only chance he has is to do the TI mod...the Trade In mod, like trade it in for an SRT-8.

^^this

[Muscle Master]

Their are twin turbo kits....

Let me get the link...

[mjf6866]

hes cant be serious....unless hes got deep pockets.

[56ace]

to clear some things up... its very possible to begin with. the 2010 Chally SE has a 5 speed auto not a 4speed like 09 and down and im sure its rated at alot higher than 300hp, also 2010 has a 3700 and some change curb weight, M.M. Supercharger puts it up to 317 RWHP at 6psi, im certain with the kit, shorty headers, exhaust, a rear seat delete for weight, upgraded throttle body, and underdrive pully, he'll be smokin right with you down the 1320... sad to say but its very very possible and as you can see in the 0 to 120 vid below, he's pulling on the auto without using the steptronic shifting, if he was to come thru his gears manually he'd turn each 10mph mark at least a second faster...
remember, stock ss camaro's only pull 364 rwhp.. so he's only 50 behind you...and you're heavier than he is, so unless your jeff gordon and hit every shift on time... i might stay away from the strip to avoid embarrasing the bowtie.... unless he's bluffing...


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[DGthe3]

With enough work and money, anything can be fast. I have some serious doubts that he'd be able to do it. Unless he goes crazy with the giggle gas or runs a turbo setup with over 10 lbs of boost (plus other supporting work) or something else of equal ambition ... I just don't see it happening. Even if he does get the engine built up enough to beat you, I don't think the rest of the drivetrain is up to the task of handling that amount of power. At the very least he would need to upgrade the wheels and tires, skinny little 215's just won't do it when you want to put over 350 hp to the ground.

56ace, welcome to the site. If you want to embed u2b videos, use the [u2b]*[/ u2b] tag (remove the space after the slash) where * is the alpha-numeric title of the video, like ljuTr3fF2_8 for that first video of yours.

[esperman]

Originally Posted by DankNuggZ

I'm admittedly not well versed when it comes to modifications, but a coworker made the claim today that within a month, he will have sufficiently modded his 2010 Challenger SE to the point that he could beat my 1SS in a 1/4 mile. This seems a little implausible to me, unless he were t invest a LARGE amount of money in Mods. Does anybody have any idea what it might take to mod his V6 to the point I'd have to fear him at the strip with my stock 1SS?

I bet my 150cc scooter can take him off the line. What I want to know is why would an SS guy even be worried enough to post this in the first place?

[Cyber Gray]

Well this Challenger has to be pimped by (Nasa Street Customs) .

Yeah baby pimp my ride

[76z28]

Originally Posted by 56ace

to clear some things up... its very possible to begin with. the 2010 Chally SE has a 5 speed auto not a 4speed like 09 and down and im sure its rated at alot higher than 300hp, also 2010 has a 3700 and some change curb weight, M.M. Supercharger puts it up to 317 RWHP at 6psi, im certain with the kit, shorty headers, exhaust, a rear seat delete for weight, upgraded throttle body, and underdrive pully, he'll be smokin right with you down the 1320... sad to say but its very very possible and as you can see in the 0 to 120 vid below, he's pulling on the auto without using the steptronic shifting, if he was to come thru his gears manually he'd turn each 10mph mark at least a second faster...
remember, stock ss camaro's only pull 364 rwhp.. so he's only 50 behind you...and you're heavier than he is, so unless your jeff gordon and hit every shift on time... i might stay away from the strip to avoid embarrasing the bowtie.... unless he's bluffing...


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about the same as a stock camaro ss

[56ace]

Here is some info about the challenger 5 speed. it'll handle 500 horses with no issue...

The W5A580 debuted in 1995 Mercedes-Benz passenger vehicles and is known to be one of the smoothest, most fuel-efficient and cost-effective transmissions in the industry. Its unique three-channel torque converter helps provide an exceptionally smooth ride and shifting, while reducing fuel consumption. A $455 million upgrade project at the Indiana Transmission Plant was started in 2001 and completed in 2003. The 600,000 SF plant was designed to produce around 400,000 of the W5A580 transmissions per year for the North American market. The transmission project was the first joint effort between the company's American and German wings after the Chrysler Corp. and Daimler-Benz merge in 1998.

A broad ratio spread from First to the Fifth was selected to minimize fuel consumption and reduce powertrain noise during cruising. An aggressive First-gear ratio provides excellent launch performance, and evenly spaced gear ratios provide smooth acceleration through the gears.

World-class efficiency is achieved through physical and electronic means. This transmission uses bearings to reduce friction in many locations where other transmissions may utilize bushings. The transmission also uses a unique scavenging system that removes oil spun off of the rotating parts by centrifugal force through strategically placed slots in the outside of the case. This saves energy that would be consumed by internal parts rotating in oil. Lubricating holes in the clutches are also positioned to promote quick passage of the transmission fluid through the discs, minimizing viscous losses due to trapped oil.

The shift schedule adapts to individual driving style, driving situation and road conditions, altering shift points based on an accelerator pedal usage, brake usage, lateral acceleration, altitude and load on the car as a result of grades. Electronically controlled engine torque management provides quick wide-open-throttle up shifts and quick two-step (4-2 or 3-1) kick-down shifts that are exceptionally smooth.

Transmission ratios:
Gear W5A580 545RFE
1st .........3.59.......... 3.00
2nd ........2.19......... 1.67 upshift / 1.50 kickdown
3rd......... 1.41...........1.0
4th...........1.00........ 0.75
5th .........0.83 .........0.67
Reverse ..3.16......... 3.0

Fully adaptive electronic control of all shifting makes shifts very smooth. The system monitors the transmission as shifts occur and adjusts hydraulic pressure as needed. In so doing, the controls make the powertrain feel responsive without harshness.

Driver recognition software alters shift points based on accelerator pedal usage, brake usage and lateral acceleration. This does not require a compromise between sporty and economical operation, nor is it a question of choosing one or the other.

A torque management system uses engine torque modeling to facilitate smooth transmission shifting. Because of electronic throttle control, torque management is more sophisticated and covers a broad torque range. Torque converter clutch slippage is electronically modulated and provides for partial engagement in Third, Fourth or Fifth gears. This results in improved shift feel, fuel economy, driveability and cooling. It can be used at lower speeds to provide benefits over a broad speed range. The system disengages as required to provide optimal performance.