100 Octane stations in CA

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by camaro5

She worky on new Corvette! SOP was wow!

I used it years ago in my Z28 too. SOP, says WEE!

You're probably saying it's not as effective as real, high-octane gas, and I believe that.

Your research is appreciated.

any time.
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Originally Posted by shnomac77

Lucas makes a good octane booster.... its actually not street legal but it works!

octane boosters that will actually give you enough of a "boost" to be noticed will not be street legal. but why spend $15.00 for a bottle of octane boost to add to 87 when you could spend less than that and just run 91 or 93?

Originally Posted by swifttal

which is why formula one and nascar use 87 right? What...no that's right, they use 100+ octane, my bad

Edit: I know this is a highly controversial subject, but the selling point for me is racing. Everyone in the business of making horsepower uses higher octane fuels. These people spend millions upon millions of dollars in research getting this right. That's my selling point. Much like the conventional oil vs synthetic argument. I didn't believe the hype until formula one finally started using synthetic. Change over the day after they did, because with this heavy of a machine running in the business of making the highest, most reliable horsepower, their word (or example in this case) speaks louder than anything. Won't catch me putting anything lower that manufacturer's recommendation at the minimum, and if I want HP, I crank up the octane - if it's good for multimillion dollar race cars, it's good enough for me.

Originally Posted by andyrew

You know they run that octane because they are tuned for it, right? If they were tuned for 87, and 100 octane they would have slightly less power....

right?

not just tuned for it, they are BUILT for it as well.

[camaro5]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

any time.
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octane boosters that will actually give you enough of a "boost" to be noticed will not be street legal. but why spend $15.00 for a bottle of octane boost to add to 87 when you could spend less than that and just run 91 or 93?







not just tuned for it, they are BUILT for it as well.

another thing to keep in mind is that a 3 pt octane booster will not bump 89 up to 92 octane. Under the North American octane system AKI (Anti-Knock Index) pump fuel is graded as (RON+MON)/2. Meaning if a fuel has a RON (Research Octane Number) of 96, and a MON ( Motor Octane Number) of 90 its AKI would be 93.

basically, you add the octane rating to the MON. so for our 89 octane the MON is roughly 90 and the MON is 88. add 3 to 88= 91

That's why I buy double super, youre out of your fing mind booster.

Add to 93 octane, she go Vrooommmm!!!!!! I mean - holy sh*t VROOOMM!

Pushes timing advance like crazy.



even helps the yugo..goes from really slow, to pretty damn slow.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

true point, but the info is correct.



higher octane doesnt just add power, it allows you to run a higher spark advance allowing you to burn the mixture longer and more completely, which is what leads to the increase in power.
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Bingo. I think many of you were arguing the same thing. H

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by camaro5

That's why I buy double super, youre out of your fing mind booster.

Add to 93 octane, she go Vrooommmm!!!!!! I mean - holy sh*t VROOOMM!

Pushes timing advance like crazy.



even helps the yugo..goes from really slow, to pretty damn slow.

LMAO!

at least she's pretty....

[CWI]

Originally Posted by swifttal

if it's good for multimillion dollar race cars, it's good enough for me.

Who makes a multi million dollar race car?

The fact ramains the same. Octane alone does not add a single HP. Octane does allow for tuning in more HP. GM could tune the car from the factory for 100 octane but it would not be economical and availability of 100 octane fuel sucks for the everyday driver. Buy a new Camaro, take it to a dyno, then add 100 octane. If the computer will "auto tune" as some people are eluding to, I would still be surprised to see more than very minimal gains. Do a ton of aftermarket improvements and you are still getting gains from the equipment and the tune, not directly from octane.

[swifttal]

Originally Posted by CWIweldace

Who makes a multi million dollar race car?

The fact ramains the same. Octane alone does not add a single HP. Octane does allow for tuning in more HP. GM could tune the car from the factory for 100 octane but it would not be economical and availability of 100 octane fuel sucks for the everyday driver. Buy a new Camaro, take it to a dyno, then add 100 octane. If the computer will "auto tune" as some people are eluding to, I would still be surprised to see more than very minimal gains. Do a ton of aftermarket improvements and you are still getting gains from the equipment and the tune, not directly from octane.

Formula one for starters

Look the bottom line is - can you do the above without high octane fuel? You could very well use the same argument for superchargers.

*winy voice*"Superchargers don't add a single horsepower. They only allow you allow you to add more fuel since the air is denser."

[LSxJunkie]

Originally Posted by swifttal

*winy voice*"Superchargers don't add a single horsepower. They only allow you allow you to add more fuel since the air is denser."

Oh dear God....

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

Oh dear God....

as long as we can keep it lighthearted....

[LSxJunkie]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

as long as we can keep it lighthearted....

Some of the things I've read here make me want to punch babies.

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

Some of the things I've read here make me want to punch babies.

thats my line....

http://www.babypuncher.com/

[camaro5]

Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

Some of the things I've read here make me want to punch babies.

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

thats my line....

http://www.babypuncher.com/

It's not my fault! I like OCTANE!


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[CWI]

Originally Posted by swifttal

Formula one for starters

Look the bottom line is - can you do the above without high octane fuel? You could very well use the same argument for superchargers.

*winy voice*"Superchargers don't add a single horsepower. They only allow you allow you to add more fuel since the air is denser."

I'm not trying to hijack this thread but facts are facts. According to this link http://www.f1-country.com/f1cost.html a single F1 cost.$662,780. NOT multi million.

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by CWIweldace

I'm not trying to hijack this thread but facts are facts. According to this link http://www.f1-country.com/f1cost.html a single F1 cost.$662,780. NOT multi million.

yeah, (and im not choosing sides) but that doesnt show the money for R&D to maximize the potential for that car, or the room and board for the driver, crew maint, tow vehicles, maint for tow vehicles, etc.

[Vash]

There used to be a station near me that sold Howell 104 octane "racing fuel". I tried a tank once and it didn't do squat but foul up my plugs. Engine needs to be tuned for it.