First ZL1 1/4 Mile Numbers.... (best of 12.04)

[OneFastZL1]

On the left is a head and cam G8, and I am on the right. 11.83@119.

Attached is the slip

[xx_ED_xx]

you need videos and witnesses for jamie mac or it didnt happen...I mean really i can pull timeslips out of my ass

:sarcasm:

[SUX2BU]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

t these are muscle cars and muscle cars race for bragging rights. Not sure what ZL1 owners will brag about in 2 months. Heck with the times it's putting up, a 2011-2012 GT500 will beat it.

Well said.

Originally Posted by Jamie Mac

You're the one promoting it so I figured you must know. I guess I was right. Another speculation being stated as fact

You got owned, LOL.

[xx_ED_xx]

Originally Posted by SUX2BU

Well said.

You got owned, LOL.

What is it orange camaro owners anti GM day? Go sell it and buy a mustang then sheesh...

Not sure how I got owned, I am just regurgitating what has been posted on this website online and from GM

[SUX2BU]

Originally Posted by xx_ED_xx

What is it orange camaro owners anti GM day? Go sell it and buy a mustang then sheesh...

Not sure how I got owned, I am just regurgitating what has been posted on this website online and from GM

I'm a Camaro guy so I will never own a Mustang, but I can admit when they have us beat in a certain category and not blindly say that the Camaro is faster because I like it.

Oh and you need to learn how forums work, just because I posted after you doesn't mean I was talking about you getting owned. I was talking about the guy I quoted. Mkay, thanks.

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Jamie Mac

I'm not calling the ZL1 crap. You'll have to forgive me but I'm a Camaro enthusiast not a GM cult member. I don't believe everything an auto manufacturer claims. I'm interested in real world. I noticed in the videos you posted that they called the COPO a concept. "Concept" being the key word. Final product could be a lot different. God forbid we see what the real world owners and drivers of these cars can do with them. We wouldn't want any facts to blemish their reputations. The ring is a great place to simulate real world driving. Much like "concept", "simulate" is the key word.

So because I believe this car isn't any less awesome I'm a cult member? sorry not following. I've called people on both sides out over BS.

The COPO was confirmed for production, but very limited.

Please explain how taking a car to a performance track and fine tuning a suspension for tracking is simulating real world driving? last I checked simulating something didn't involve actually doing the driving. Simulating hitting bumps can be done in a lab. driving around in the real world would give good feed back for real world driving. and they do that. so please again explain how they simulate real world driving on a race track like that?

You go to the ring to show what a car is capable of. not to simulate shit.

[xx_ED_xx]

I know how a forum works, some people care to talk about what the forum is about. And others just join to stir shit...

Which category do you fall in?

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by OneFastZL1

On the left is a head and cam G8, and I am on the right. 11.83@119.

Attached is the slip

mods, tire pressure, conditions?

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Jamie Mac

The ZL1 is being marketed as "the most powerful Camaro ever". I've been on a road course. I've talked to the hobbiest that do it on a regular basis. I've talked with professional road racers. Not one of them has ever told me to add more power to run a road course. They all told me to invest in brakes. "the most powerful Camaro ever", You guys really don't think that speaks of drag strip? I guess all that power is strictly a marketing ploy then.

How many races did those guys win? going to go with not a lot. you need both along with good suspension and good driver.

This is the most powerful camaro ever produced. It has the most horsepower. so who's the one twisting marketing? just pulling an old post from you.

[xx_ED_xx]

Originally Posted by Jamie Mac

Excellent. Now we are gathering real world data from an owner. Congrats!



Im glad to see the above time slip and hope to see more like this and better. You should try out for Americas got talent with your ass trick.



Exactly, regurgitating advertising from a manufacturer and speculators on a website who are also going by advertising. As I stated I'm not a GM cult member. You say I should sell my Camaro for not believing all the hype and choosing to await facts. Excellent business plan you have. Perhaps everyone who doesn't believe every word GM puts out should stop buying their products.

Are you buying a COPO or ZL1? I dont know I am not the one with a picture of 2 gm cars in his driveway saying I dont believe the hype. So why did you buy the camaro and saturn sky? As you have repeatedly stated you are not a GM cult member...

Do you own stock in GM and thats why you are upset?

[mlee]

Originally Posted by OneFastZL1

On the left is a head and cam G8, and I am on the right. 11.83@119.

Attached is the slip

So this is a ZL1 time slip??? Would be nice if at least the date was visible

[SUX2BU]

Originally Posted by xx_ED_xx

I know how a forum works, some people care to talk about what the forum is about. And others just join to stir shit...

Which category do you fall in?

If you know how it works why did you think I was talking about you?

I always talk about what this forum is about, my statements about what this forum is about just happen to hurt sensitive people's feelings.

[formare]

The original '69 ZL1 was known as a 13.1sec car and it was nearly a thousand pounds lighter; just sayin.

[RX SS RACERX]

Originally Posted by closs2sx

one would hope your not trying to make the stock numbers look bad so the non stock numbers look good. And I would trust your guys can drive so i would have expected atleast what chevy says it could do but was hoping for better with the right driver. Not thrilled with those numbers at all in fact i spent all day trying to secure a 2013 allocation and now i am not so sure i want one. I am not buying the car for staight line only but at that price and 580hp it should do better than that

Don't know your goals but the ZL1 does seem to be a very sweet ride and a 'somewhat' powerful car WITH a factory warranty. With that being said I do not feel these cars will be an investment piece. Used SS's are becoming quite common at very decent $$ (much to my chagrin). At 60K+ for the Z you can have a killer SS built for way less. Like I said-what is your goal? At the end of the day/year/decade they are only worth what someone will pay and IMHO it will be much less than we have in them. Whatever you decide-best of luck-sounds like it will be a Camaro so you can't go wrong I can tell I missed alot of posts-it's late so I won't be catching up but my point is still relevant-just a couple hundred posts back!