1/9/09 IDL OFFICIAL THREAD - NEWS: PRODUCTION START DELAYED

[josh1147]

Folks,

Just a reminder that the following "caveat" has been in place since DAY 1 of the Early Order Program:

"Please keep your estimated production guide number in mind and on hand when submitting orders. Placement of an order does not guarantee production of said order, and exceeding a guide number will not generate additional production. Only bona fide sold customer orders with complete information (including customer’s name and full address) will be accepted by General Motors. Consumers making inquiries on the status of their orders will be instructed that the dealer has received an estimated production guide number, and will be directed back to their dealer for further information on their order. It is very important that you manage customer expectations consistent with your production guide numbers and consistent with the uncertainties in the production process. "

After today's fiasco, these statements carry a little more weight, don't they!!

(I don't like it anymore than the rest of you)

[camarogreg@evs]

Hey I am Legend...I must be off topic for a second. Nice avatar!!! I moved to Wisconsin in June from Southern IN/Louisville, KY and have missed my Cats. GO BIG BLUE!!!

[Silver Streak]

Originally Posted by wildpaws

And your realistic solution would have been??
Clyde

[2010_5thgen]

Originally Posted by camarogreg@evs

Chevrolet has never said they will build V8 Camaros equal to V6. The plant does have the capacity to build boat loads of Camaros. The marketing behind the car however, is as a V6. That is what Chevrolet has said time and time again. I am sure it will be a great V6 car. We all have a pre-conceived notion that Camaro is an American Muscle Car. I've had two Camaros. A 1995 V6 and a 1997 30th Z28. I think V8 when I think Camaro. The Marketing Team is trying to sell this car world wide, which granted they are making money in other parts of the world. That is why it's important that this car be what it is. I don't agree but I wasn't asked. I hope that it will be a benefit for GM because my job depends on it. Sorry if I misunderstood your post.

again you arent understanding the word i am typing. i said that chevy said they can build as many v8 to v6 becasue of the plant. i never said they were.

and i dont really care how many v6 models they sell. they shouldnt punish the people who want the v8. change your styling and crowd you are trying to bring in, BUT DONT LOSE YOUR LOYAL CUSTOMERS(V8)

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by camaroconti@evs

our apologies to the GM people that had us remove the video we shared. There was nothing at the beginning of that broadcast that said it was private and not intended for public broadcast..others have, this one did not.

We felt it was so important to share the actual words regarding that "sold orders do not determine allocaton" great to hear so everyone can attempt to be on the same page.

Our intent to give the customer straight talk via GM and ourselves to avoid any further confusion. We have been at this long enough to know better.

We too, care and are concerned about the product and how the customer is handled or we would not have even made the effort to inform folks what is going on. As for being private, I know for a fact, some customers were invited to the dealership to view this broadcast and did.

Thank-you for understanding and we have complied, the video is down. Have a great weekend and look for move informed details we are allowed to share as we have them. This is a car worth waiting for and our hats off to Gm and the Camaro team for bringing her back to life......

Thumbs up
Rick Conti/Greg Sanders

At least we know they are reading this topic!

- ahem -

HI GUYS! KICK ANY PUPPIES TODAY!???
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!

[NVMY68SS]

Originally Posted by camarogreg@evs

Chevrolet has never said they will build V8 Camaros equal to V6. The plant does have the capacity to build boat loads of Camaros. The marketing behind the car however, is as a V6. That is what Chevrolet has said time and time again. I am sure it will be a great V6 car. We all have a pre-conceived notion that Camaro is an American Muscle Car. I've had two Camaros. A 1995 V6 and a 1997 30th Z28. I think V8 when I think Camaro. The Marketing Team is trying to sell this car world wide, which granted they are making money in other parts of the world. That is why it's important that this car be what it is. I don't agree but I wasn't asked. I hope that it will be a benefit for GM because my job depends on it. Sorry if I misunderstood your post.

They might not have said that they would, but they definitely said that they could.

What about model constraints – is the SS model expected to be constrained?

All SS models come equipped with 6.2L V8 engine. All LS and LT models are equipped with the highly efficient, powerful 3.6L V6 engine. The results of our early intender survey indicate the majority of the demand will be for the 3.6L V6, however, the plant is preparing for a 50/50 production split between V8 and V6 engines.

[Legend]

Originally Posted by camarogreg@evs

Hey I am Legend...I must be off topic for a second. Nice avatar!!! I moved to Wisconsin in June from Southern IN/Louisville, KY and have missed my Cats. GO BIG BLUE!!!

GO BIG BLUE!!! Vandy goes down tomorrow!! ...oh yeah...3 straight bowl victories too!! GO BIG BLUE!

[2010_5thgen]

i like the part where he says" if i knew we werent supposed to inform the folks i wouldnt have posted it". hahah. yeah thats what they want. they dont want us to know.

[CamaroScotty]

Near the end of the IDL, John corrected himself from something he said earlier about the V8's...now I may have been typing an update when he first spoke, but at the end I thought he said there may not even BE a constraint on the V8....unless future orders exceed supply. Rest assured, I took the IDL differently than what was posted here.

Trust me, the truth on how the IDL was meant to be received, and if this thread has accuracy will be posted soon....

[trm0002]

Originally Posted by josh1147

Folks,

Just a reminder that the following "caveat" has been in place since DAY 1 of the Early Order Program:

"Please keep your estimated production guide number in mind and on hand when submitting orders. Placement of an order does not guarantee production of said order, and exceeding a guide number will not generate additional production. DUH Only bona fide sold customer orders with complete information (including customer’s name and full address) will be accepted by General Motors. Consumers making inquiries on the status of their orders will be instructed that the dealer has received an estimated production guide number, and will be directed back to their dealer for further information on their order. It is very important that you manage customer expectations consistent with your production guide numbers and consistent with the uncertainties in the production process. "

After today's fiasco, these statements carry a little more weight, don't they!!

(I don't like it anymore than the rest of you)

Managing your customer's (our) expectations didn't include GM bothering to tell the dealers, "Oh, by the way, we're gonna produce a bunch of V6's so each dealer can have one before we bother to produce what you sell in the meantime." What GM did there is the biggest BS part of the whole equation. That's the single reason for the biggest delay we're all going to see.

The dealers did nothing wrong IMO by accepting as many orders of whatever trim level, as they were given an allotment (production guide number) for. Those (many) who opened their mouths and told their customers they'd have their cars by April, yes, THAT is their fault.

[2010_5thgen]

Originally Posted by NVMY68SS

They might not have said that they would, but they definitely said that they could.

What about model constraints – is the SS model expected to be constrained?

All SS models come equipped with 6.2L V8 engine. All LS and LT models are equipped with the highly efficient, powerful 3.6L V6 engine. The results of our early intender survey indicate the majority of the demand will be for the 3.6L V6, however, the plant is preparing for a 50/50 production split between V8 and V6 engines.

thak you. im not the only one who has a clue whats going on here. if they want to control the amount of v8's sold, maybe we should just all buy vettes if we cant get a v8 camaro. there arent restrictions on how many v8 vettes they sell. BECAUSE THEIR ALL V*8's

[camarogreg@evs]

Originally Posted by RallyFever

Not quite true.......

ChevyLaunch has, and still does, advertise a near 50/50 production rate!

"The results of our early intender survey indicate the majority of the demand will be for the 3.6L V6, however, the plant is preparing for a 50/50 production split between V8 and V6 engines."

Thanks for pointing that out...here is the statement from ChevyLaunch

[2010_5thgen]

why doesnt anyone ever believe what i tell them

[PieNsky]

Originally Posted by camarogreg@evs

Hey I am Legend...I must be off topic for a second. Nice avatar!!! I moved to Wisconsin in June from Southern IN/Louisville, KY and have missed my Cats. GO BIG BLUE!!!

But when will Rick put Ritchie in