2014 Camaro Refresh to Debut at New York Auto Show

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by SummoneR

The blind spot warning system would be awesome. Especially with the rear visibility of the Camaros.

It already has one, you keep backing until you hear a crunching sound then stop.

[FINALLYSATISFIED]

Originally Posted by SummoneR

The blind spot warning system would be awesome. Especially with the rear visibility of the Camaros.

+1

[detltu]

Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

Go back up to my post. The first gen got a refresh for one year. The third gen got a refresh for two years.

It's not unheard of to go through the trouble for only one or two model years

Reread my post. I didn't say it was impossible. I also wouldn't consider the 91 Camaro a refresh. The good news is the 5th gen is selling at levels it hasn't sold at in a long time. Selling at a larger number helps to justify the cost for the refresh (a la the 69). I suspect if the 6th gen is still coming in a year or two the refresh will be fairly minor.

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

The point of doing a refresh is to keep the car relevant for another year or so until a brand-new model is ready.

For example, Impala ditched the 3.5L/3.9L V6s and 4-speed automatic for the LFX and 6-speed automatic for 2012/2013, despite a brand new Impala arriving Q1 2013 for the 2014MY.

The point of a refresh is to keep a car relevant until a new model is ready. A refresh within a year or two of a new model is the exception. not the norm.

[Angrybird 12]

Maybe they could cut two cylinders off the LT1 v8 and make a 4.6L DI V6 like they made a 4.3 V6 out of the 5.7L years ago...

[Firefighter]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Maybe they could cut two cylinders off the LT1 v8 and make a 4.6L DI V6 like they made a 4.3 V6 out of the 5.7L years ago...

Dude... 90* V6's shake like hell, I would rather a small V8. I've owned 3 of them and they tear through mounts like crazy and if you get a mount worth a damn they shake (balance shaft or not) like hell. I would almost rather a 4.3L V8 they had an LT1 version of it in Police Caprices in the 90's supposedly they were a good compromise.

[camarolt76]

I was thinking the NY Auto Show was this weekend, but just learned it is not until March 29th. Guess I'll have to wait a couple more weeks.

[nak3dsnake]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Maybe they could cut two cylinders off the LT1 v8 and make a 4.6L DI V6 like they made a 4.3 V6 out of the 5.7L years ago...

Originally Posted by Firefighter

Dude... 90* V6's shake like hell, I would rather a small V8. I've owned 3 of them and they tear through mounts like crazy and if you get a mount worth a damn they shake (balance shaft or not) like hell. I would almost rather a 4.3L V8 they had an LT1 version of it in Police Caprices in the 90's supposedly they were a good compromise.

Umm.. they did. How did either of you miss this? It was in the press conference and just about every tidbit released. Its based off the truck version if the LT1 but its still LT based.

2014 4.3L V-6 EcoTec3 AFM VVT DI (LV3) for Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra


http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/n...3-engines.html

A family of three all-new engines
The EcoTec3 lineup for the 2014 Silverado and Sierra 1500 includes a 4.3L V-6 and 5.3L and 6.2L V-8s, all matched with proven, efficient six-speed transmissions in the United States and Canada.

The new 4.3L V-6 will offer budget-conscious customers a state-of-the art truck engine, with ample torque to power a crew cab and tow a trailer.
The new 5.3L V-8 is engineered for more horsepower, more torque and better fuel economy than the current 5.3L V-8.
The new 6.2L V-8 is expected to be the most capable engine offered in any light-duty pickup truck.

SAE certified horsepower and torque ratings and EPA fuel economy estimates for the new Silverado and Sierra will be available beginning early next year.

[Firefighter]

Now that I see that pic I remember reading about that... I hope it doesn't shake like hell. I don't like the choice of either mushy motor mounts that tear once a year or a vehicle that shakes like crazy... neither is fun.

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by Firefighter

Now that I see that pic I remember reading about that... I hope it doesn't shake like hell. I don't like the choice of either mushy motor mounts that tear once a year or a vehicle that shakes like crazy... neither is fun.

Do you recall, in the '90s, when Busch Grand National cars ran V6 engines...to about 9,000 rpm?!

Yup...the Chevy versions were based on the 90 degree 4.3 V6, not entirely foreign, architecture-wise, to what we'll see very shortly in Silverado/Sierra, and have had now since the '80s.

[Firefighter]

Sure do and they were a totally different level and had different standards than what a person wants in a DD.

First they had common journal cranks and were balanced to the millionth of a gram (slight exaggeration) plus the whole odd vs even fire thing, yes they ran like scalded dogs and were also running splayed valves and could be made to iirc 5.5L.

The difference with the street version is profound and the lack of interchangeability between the two ends shortly after the block.

I'm pretty intimate with the motor I have 300K+ miles driving and maintaining the 4.3L. I've even rebuilt two of them. I love the little stump puller but it can be frustrating all the same... kind of like my wife. LoL

Sent from my friggin Droid by two thumbs using Tapatalk 2 or whatever the ish it's called....

[Firefighter]

BTW... not claiming to be an expert just stating my familiarity with the 4.3L.

Sent from my friggin Droid by two thumbs using Tapatalk 2 or whatever the ish it's called....

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Firefighter

Dude... 90* V6's shake like hell, I would rather a small V8. I've owned 3 of them and they tear through mounts like crazy and if you get a mount worth a damn they shake (balance shaft or not) like hell. I would almost rather a 4.3L V8 they had an LT1 version of it in Police Caprices in the 90's supposedly they were a good compromise.

I had 4 vehicles with that motor and to my experience none of them "shook like hell" as you say. Yes they shook but I never had one issue with motor mounts. All 4, from the 1988 to the 1996 were great engines and never had a issue other than one got an oil leak and my son didn't check the oil and spun a bearing at 175,000 miles.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by nak3dsnake

Umm.. they did. How did either of you miss this? It was in the press conference and just about every tidbit released. Its based off the truck version if the LT1 but its still LT based.

2014 4.3L V-6 EcoTec3 AFM VVT DI (LV3) for Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra


http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/n...3-engines.html

A family of three all-new engines
The EcoTec3 lineup for the 2014 Silverado and Sierra 1500 includes a 4.3L V-6 and 5.3L and 6.2L V-8s, all matched with proven, efficient six-speed transmissions in the United States and Canada.

The new 4.3L V-6 will offer budget-conscious customers a state-of-the art truck engine, with ample torque to power a crew cab and tow a trailer.
The new 5.3L V-8 is engineered for more horsepower, more torque and better fuel economy than the current 5.3L V-8.
The new 6.2L V-8 is expected to be the most capable engine offered in any light-duty pickup truck.

SAE certified horsepower and torque ratings and EPA fuel economy estimates for the new Silverado and Sierra will be available beginning early next year.

Maybe because I wasn't at the press conference and never saw that info, basically because I dont really care about the new truck release.You don't have to act that way in your reply...

[nak3dsnake]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Maybe because I wasn't at the press conference and never saw that info, basically because I dont really care about the new truck release.You don't have to act that way in your reply...

Act in what way? I meant no disrespect to you or anyone, and I cannot predict how other individuals will interpret my text as it cannot properly convey emotions. You criticize the way I acted, yet respond in the way you did in your previous post to Firefighter? Perhaps you should be less defensive?