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Silver Streak · 01-09-2009, 10:15 PM

I think you EVS guys are a little late to the punch here to have my faith. Scotty has always seemed to be square and this is not something that just started with the preorders and all. I thought the video was almost kind of laughing at us for believing in preodering this car. I take that EVS hasn't sold any preorders or they sold them to customers believing that it was just a marketing survey. I find this hard to believe. Why the so sudden interest now when we have been ordering under the premises that it does mean something, why did you wait till now to come on this forum and post it. To me something stinks here! Maybe I am totally wrong, but I am going to believe that Scotty has been giving us reliable information and from I have seen has led no one down a wrong path. For me this isn't about the delay in production but the V6 to V8 distributions. BTW proportionately speaking small dealers are no dif than big dealers with SS's or not, alot of sales = alot of allocations, not many sales = not many allocations. I am #6 out of 8 with only 2 SS's ordered, me being one! Explain how a bigger dealership with more allocations will get there SS's filled before my dealer get theres filled! If I am correct in my thinking All allotments should be filled approximately same time frame.
There is my 2 cents for what is worth. Prolly not worth that now with inflation and all. Doh!

Stevo · 01-09-2009, 10:16 PM

Ellwynx, sounds like you might as well use that paper for ass wiping

vsgls1 · 01-09-2009, 10:18 PM

My head hurts.

Thanks for the heads up info.

detroitboy · 01-09-2009, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

Because the IDL's are meant for dealerships only. Yes, we can share info with the public, which I did - but the actual broadcast is the property of GM. It was a NO NO like physically posting the dealer workbook a few months back.

I guess if I picked up DOOM, I would have posted it in text - but I did not. I came away with a better feeling about production than before.

Its the thought that counts bro....thanks for being there for us.

DarrenJ · 01-09-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodrunner

I had a Chevette many years ago, and for cheap transportation I thought it was great.
Yeah, I did the same thing earlier this afternoon before calming down and thinking about GM's big picture....threatened to go out and buy a Challenger. Nah, I don't think so!
You have a '67...lucky dog.

Here's what I'm playing with until my 2010 SS arrives.

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Rodrunner · 01-09-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevo

Ellwynx, sounds like you might as well use that paper for ass wiping

Gotta agree!!!

Legend · 01-09-2009, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

People who pre-ordered are a bunch of whiners and ingrates. After all, you guys all got 2 letters and some pretty pictures in the mail. What more do you want?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?! A car or something? SHEESH!

I only got one letter....:(

LOL!!

detroitboy · 01-09-2009, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTimer

I can't keep quiet any longer. You have a total of 5 posts on this forum and you are ridiculing Scotty! You should be ashamed of how you have represented your industry tonight.

Scotty has been a solid supporter of GM and what they are trying to do to move forward in an industry that is under considerable stress right now and in an economy that is at an all time low.

I don't know about anyone else on here, but, you really tic me off.

Yea...me too

towmoe · 01-09-2009, 10:29 PM

Here's the issue from my point of view. If GM has given dealerships an allotment number, but didn't tell them there would be a required V6 to V8 mix and the dealerships allowed all of the allotments to be V8s, then GM is in the wrong. I want to know from the dealer here if GM told them of the required V6 count within their allotments. If not, then the dealers and us as consumers were dupped!

Mosher · 01-09-2009, 10:32 PM

Small prediction here, but by October, not only will the "Pre-orders" be filled but there will be SS's on lots.... Not a ton mind you, but I think they will be there.

I'm just not Buying how this is all doom and gloom. If they make as many cars as they claim they will there will be plenty to go around.

heavyt100 · 01-09-2009, 10:32 PM

Guess we now know why there haven't been any SS reviews in the enthusiast press, eh?

*Camaro_Corvette* · 01-09-2009, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosher

Small prediction here, but by October, not only will the "Pre-orders" be filled but there will be SS's on lots.... Not a ton mind you, but I think they will be there.

I'm just not Buying how this is all doom and gloom. If they make as many cars as they claim they will there will be plenty to go around.

No shit, I cannot see how GM plans to make 70-80 thousand camaros a year and people think it is going to take 10 months to get their car. If GM goes at that pace, then they will never hit their production mark. Not in a million years.

smhss · 01-09-2009, 10:36 PM

I sell construction equipment, and the notion of making a customer who has given me a (in effect) purchase order wait while I bring in other equipment "on spec" just seems illogical as hell. Of course, if I knew I had the guy by the short hairs...nah, I wouldn't do that, and GM shouldn't either, in my humble, unsolicited opinion.

EllwynX · 01-09-2009, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tantalizer43

SO if a dealer was alloted 5 Camaros, and they were all orderd as SS's, what happens to those numbers when GM forces them to take a V6, against thier allotment?

Or "estimated shipment number"

This is similar to my situation. My dealer was allotted 5. I was first to order my SS. I know 2 were SS and I think one was V6. I don't know if the other 2 were ordered and what they were.

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01-09-2009, 10:15 PM	#659
Silver Streak Drives: 2008 Cobalt SS/TC Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Smyrna Bch. Florida Posts: 1,449 View My Garage	I think you EVS guys are a little late to the punch here to have my faith. Scotty has always seemed to be square and this is not something that just started with the preorders and all. I thought the video was almost kind of laughing at us for believing in preodering this car. I take that EVS hasn't sold any preorders or they sold them to customers believing that it was just a marketing survey. I find this hard to believe. Why the so sudden interest now when we have been ordering under the premises that it does mean something, why did you wait till now to come on this forum and post it. To me something stinks here! Maybe I am totally wrong, but I am going to believe that Scotty has been giving us reliable information and from I have seen has led no one down a wrong path. For me this isn't about the delay in production but the V6 to V8 distributions. BTW proportionately speaking small dealers are no dif than big dealers with SS's or not, alot of sales = alot of allocations, not many sales = not many allocations. I am #6 out of 8 with only 2 SS's ordered, me being one! Explain how a bigger dealership with more allocations will get there SS's filled before my dealer get theres filled! If I am correct in my thinking All allotments should be filled approximately same time frame. There is my 2 cents for what is worth. Prolly not worth that now with inflation and all. Doh!

01-09-2009, 10:16 PM	#660
Stevo Drives: Camaro 2010 SIM Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 348	Ellwynx, sounds like you might as well use that paper for ass wiping

01-09-2009, 10:29 PM	#667
towmoe Drives: IBM 2010 Camaro Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: OKC Posts: 462	Here's the issue from my point of view. If GM has given dealerships an allotment number, but didn't tell them there would be a required V6 to V8 mix and the dealerships allowed all of the allotments to be V8s, then GM is in the wrong. I want to know from the dealer here if GM told them of the required V6 count within their allotments. If not, then the dealers and us as consumers were dupped!

01-09-2009, 10:32 PM	#668
Mosher Drives: 1LT Cruze Summit White Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bedford Posts: 708	Small prediction here, but by October, not only will the "Pre-orders" be filled but there will be SS's on lots.... Not a ton mind you, but I think they will be there. I'm just not Buying how this is all doom and gloom. If they make as many cars as they claim they will there will be plenty to go around.

01-09-2009, 10:32 PM	#669
heavyt100 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Outta' here Posts: 231 View My Garage	Guess we now know why there haven't been any SS reviews in the enthusiast press, eh?

01-09-2009, 10:36 PM	#671
smhss Drives: '11 Silverado, '10 Camaro 2SS... Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Conyers, Ga Posts: 161 View My Garage	I sell construction equipment, and the notion of making a customer who has given me a (in effect) purchase order wait while I bring in other equipment "on spec" just seems illogical as hell. Of course, if I knew I had the guy by the short hairs...nah, I wouldn't do that, and GM shouldn't either, in my humble, unsolicited opinion.