2010 2SS/RS vs GTO

[jrc1122]

Originally Posted by a_Username

There probably are a couple.

I doubt it.

Full tank of gas, no changed fluids, no removal of weight what-so-ever (yes including the air bag warning card that sticks out from the glove box)

Exact same tire pressure...
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[cmiller8006]

Originally Posted by jrc1122

I doubt it.

Full tank of gas, no changed fluids, no removal of weight what-so-ever (yes including the air bag warning card that sticks out from the glove box)

Exact same tire pressure...

Well at our dealer, we take out the airbag sticker before delivery, there are no rear floor mats and we offer the option of full tank or 50.00 gift card.

[jrc1122]

Originally Posted by cmiller8006

Well at our dealer, we take out the airbag sticker before delivery, there are no rear floor mats and we offer the option of full tank or 50.00 gift card.

It's the internet, the exception is but a keyboard away.


first two cars were bought from Private owners while I was in HS.. a 82 Mercury Lynx, and a 86 Chevy Celebrity.

However- I've bought these cars from dealerships

98 Malibu (slightly used)- tank full
99 Amigo (for my then wife)- new - full tank
00 Tiburon- new- tank full
01 Hyundai XG300L- new-tank full
02 Sunfire GT- new- full tank
04 Nissan Sentra SER specV- new- full tank
04 Nissan Frontier 4x4- new- full tank
05 XG350L- new- full tank
00- MR2 Spyder- used -full tank
02 - Trans Am WS6- used- full tank
04 Nissan Titan - used- full tank
09 Pontiac G8 GT- new full tank

Don't forget about the 04 Yamaha R6- new- full tank

Every single car that was new- had that airbag paper- when I drove off (from the best of my memory)



Not to be fickle-- but seriously you are most definitely the exception.

PS all those cars (with the exception of the 00 Tiburon and 01 XG300L were bought at different dealerships, -- from various states (CO, CA, PA, VA, TX)
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[a_Username]

Originally Posted by jrc1122

I doubt it.

Full tank of gas, no changed fluids, no removal of weight what-so-ever (yes including the air bag warning card that sticks out from the glove box)

Exact same tire pressure...

That's a little bit of a ridiculous standard for being labeled stock. A couple of meaningless things such as changing the oil shouldn't keep it from making a stock list.

[cmiller8006]

Or like my car I drove it home still wrapped in the plastic lol. My boss just sees it as an extra incentive for buyers when they have the choice. You would be suprized at how many take the gift card. And Today I had someone who only wanted the inside done and not the out side but wanted all the stickers left in. To end this all my opinion of stock is no tune, nobolt ons, no weight deduction, factory tires, oil don't matter or you blow up, buts that's me.

[mrray13]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

If you're running around the street on just motor these days, you better be worried. Please tell me you're not one of those people that think that by not having a power-adder on your car that makes it somehow better than one that does.

Not saying one is better by being all motor and running a certain time, but it does have a coolness factor. Just like being boosted in some way has a coolness factor to it.

But if one can say their all motor whatever ran a whatever time and beat so and so's boosted whatever, then it's just a touch more badass. That said, I know one can spend quite a bit more to claim all motor then someone who boosts and tunes to get the same performance.

I'm going for a specific all motor goal with my 1LT. If I can't reach it on motor alone, then I'll go boost or spray!

[nhra stocker]

Originally Posted by cmiller8006

Well whats the weight difference? I have seen 3700-4200 for the camaro and about 3600-4000 for the gto. Any one weigh there camaro?

I raced mine at Bowling Green KY. with me in it 3950 with a quarter tank of gas and everything the car , i didnt pull any weight out.

[Mosher]

Originally Posted by nhra stocker

I raced mine at Bowling Green KY. with me in it 3950 with a quarter tank of gas and everything the car , i didnt pull any weight out.

12.62?

Well done!

[Black5thgen]

The stock LS3 Camaro will run circles around the LS2 GTO. It isn't even a close race. I know this personally as I have ran many GTO's around my area. I don't know why but there is a problem with the GTO chassis putting power to the ground with out extensive suspension mods. It seems like this was fixed with the Camaro. Inorder to run a stock SS the GTO needs quite a few bolt-on's.

[jrc1122]

Originally Posted by a_Username

That's a little bit of a ridiculous standard for being labeled stock. A couple of meaningless things such as changing the oil shouldn't keep it from making a stock list.

Some people think KN drop filters and oil changes knock someone out of contention for the "fastest stock Camaro" .., so if those are "performance" modifications, then i contend all the other stuff is also performance enhancing modifications, because it could in fact effect the E.T.



Really just trying to prove a point
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[KarFan]

Originally Posted by nhra stocker

I raced mine at Bowling Green KY. with me in it 3950 with a quarter tank of gas and everything the car , i didnt pull any weight out.

You must weigh about 175lbs.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by mrray13

Not saying one is better by being all motor and running a certain time, but it does have a coolness factor. Just like being boosted in some way has a coolness factor to it.

But if one can say their all motor whatever ran a whatever time and beat so and so's boosted whatever, then it's just a touch more badass. That said, I know one can spend quite a bit more to claim all motor then someone who boosts and tunes to get the same performance.

I'm going for a specific all motor goal with my 1LT. If I can't reach it on motor alone, then I'll go boost or spray!

after having both (still have both), I still prefer to the boosted route, even though my NA car is faster than my boosted car!

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by jrc1122

Some people think KN drop filters and oil changes knock someone out of contention for the "fastest stock Camaro" .., so if those are "performance" modifications, then i contend all the other stuff is also performance enhancing modifications, because it could in fact effect the E.T.



Really just trying to prove a point

Oh I get ya mayne.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by jrc1122

Some people think KN drop filters and oil changes knock someone out of contention for the "fastest stock Camaro" .., so if those are "performance" modifications, then i contend all the other stuff is also performance enhancing modifications, because it could in fact effect the E.T.



Really just trying to prove a point

And my point is, both of those add power, if you look at at the links, the royal purple has been shown to add 7 or so HP on dynos, and more importantly, at a lower RPM. That is the point, if you do something that adds performance (more HP at a lower RPM for example), it is not longer in contention to be "stock"