05-06-2009, 11:45 PM | #57 |
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agreed... let us know what dealership it is that did that and we'll all flood their email boxes with complaints and notices about how bad of a dealership they are for doing that to an enthusiast.
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05-06-2009, 11:50 PM | #58 |
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Thank you very much Fbodfather. to the post about the dealer charging extra... you had to expect something like that would happen with all the hype the car has been generating, is it fair they just sprung that on you? no not at all. But if you ordered a car with an open "sales ticket" then your kind of asking for trouble IMO. I had the same situation where the salesman and sales manager said they were selling at MSRP we had an agreed upon sales prices signed by both, but i get a call a few days later from the general sales manager saying they are selling the car 15k above *yes 15k* msrp and that he was supposed to be handling all orders for the camaros and his staff was misinformed. Long story not so long I will be waiting for my car. New cars ALWAYS have problems we should all expect that and I will have mine soon enough
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05-06-2009, 11:52 PM | #61 |
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Please tell me that was a joke...
Thanks Fbod for being on this site even though you don't have to be. I don't see where you find the energy to do your job, and take all these questions at the same time. A true enthusiast! Last edited by Camaro_Corvette; 05-07-2009 at 12:08 AM. |
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Also, THANK YOU for your hard work. I had nothing to do with building this car and it gets irritating watching people try and make it look as terrible as possible *cough*ChallengerTalk*cough* (Note: not everyone there is bad, just some have strong "opinions"). Regardless, I think the Camaro will be a fantastic car that's just experiencing the normal growing pains of any car at this point. |
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I do wonder though... has the production line been updated due to the battery wiring recall? Or do all cars need to have the "fix" installed? Thanks for the posts, Scott. |
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05-07-2009, 12:27 AM | #64 |
It sounds as if fbodfather is high up on the food chain but still takes time to write everyone (ever think about twitter fbodfather?). I wish I ordered early but ended up ordering recently. I was told I might not get mine until after August and my family teases me that I might get it in time to store it for the winter but I will gladly wait. You all have bragging rights to say you ordered yours when the rest of the world was in hibernation. This is what the go getters do, pave the path for the rest of us. Remind yourself also that if it wasn't for all those early orders this concept car would be a hazy memory instead of a piece of history you can actually own! Feel proud to be the owner of a working piece of art with all the bells and whistles of American History! If you are just looking to be the "first one on the block to have this car" then go to the dealers and take what is there. Thank you fbodfather for taking the time to feed us with great info and don't let a few rotten apples spoil it for the bunch of us red delicious ones.
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And here's the minority party's rebuttal to GM party's State of the Union address
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This is the stock response it seems. Blame it on the heavy hand of government. Then please explain how you were able to build all those cars for Avis? Shouldn’t they have to be evenly spread out? How come several NASCAR drivers got early cars? How come Dr. Phil and Jay Leno are getting the hook up? Do these same laws have a provision that states “If you’re incredibly rich, GM can build a car for you ahead of all the stupid normal people”? This just doesn’t add up. If you can do it for celebrities, you can do it for the not-so-celebrities that unwittingly agreed to be your guinea pigs. Last edited by UCF w00t; 05-07-2009 at 01:10 AM. |
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I'd like to thank you for all that you've done to keep is informed and calm our fears.
I've asked about you at every car show I have attended, but unfortunately you have never been there at the same time as me. I would love to meet you some day and will continue to ask when I go to the shows. Every time I have asked about you, everyone has always gone on to tell me how wonderful you are. I'd also like to thank GM for putting out the recall on the battery cable so quickly. We have only hear about 1 incident and most company's wait for it to be an overwhelming number of reports before they think about issuing one. This truly does tell me that GM values quality. I know that a lot of people are tired of waiting on their pre-orders, but I for one would be glad to know that once I get my car I shouldn't have to keep bringing it back to the dealership to fix these little details that GM has caught so early. Maybe I'm drinking kool-aid, but I truly believe that GM wants to get this car right so that when we all do finally get our Camaro's we will be more than satisfied with them. |
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Scott
You have the "Patience of Jobe" --- you're in the right job. IMHO some of the members on this forum are dumber than a post (I, obviously, haven't developed a charitable attitude) and they NEVER will "get it". I think some of these bloggers have no real personality outside of this "anonymous" commentary --- and it seems to bring some of the worst out. You (and John Fitzpatrick in the FastLane site) have explained everything in a clear, understandable way --- but, still we hear the same illogical rants. You guys keep up the great work --- I don't think I could still be so nice!!
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All I can say is that I was blown away by your write up. As a fairly new member here, I feel honored to have someone in the know actually take the time to address so many concerns that are flying around cyber space. Your car truely is a work of art that has no equal. THANK YOU!
I have not had the pleasure of driving it, nor have I seen all the colors in person. I do know that I can't wait for sometime in late August or early September to get that call saying that my 2SSRS is in and to come pick her up. I have owned several GM products over the years, and will continue to do so as long as you're able to provide them. Please keep doing what you do best so we can enjoy it for what it is, the BEST dang Camaro ever!
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05-07-2009, 01:13 AM | #69 |
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I understand and respect you, fbodfather.
Thank you for taking the time to talk to all of us. I'm in for the long haul. |
05-07-2009, 01:28 AM | #70 |
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Scott,
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this post, answering the responses to this post as well as the countless other posts you contribute to on this forum. This was a very honest, thought out and from the heart appeal for understanding and many of us appreciate it very much. But as they say, unfortunately, you can't please all the people all the time. I, for one, appreciate the fact that GM is taking the time to make sure to make sure that all our Camaros are delivered to us close to perfect as possible. I'm sure that this is the majority sentiment. I would be classified as a "conquest" sale as the Camaro I ordered will not only be my first GM vehicle, but the first domestic vehicle I have purchased. I've only owned 3 other cars, but nonetheless. I have been logging into this forum many times daily over the past several months and appreciate the contributions that you, Number 3 and other GM employees bring to this forum. GM is doing the right thing. I am glad you know that. So will all those on here that are bitching at the moment when they eventually take delivery of their Camaros and they find that it was worth the wait and the posts start coming in hand over fist proclaiming "this new Camaro FAR exceeds my expectations". Thank You! |
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