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JIMMYRAY31B · 10-26-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SK360

All I'm saying is don't act like you know the full situation.

He could have been half throttle to get up the hill, the auto downshifted unexpectedly and due to the wet roads he went sideways. Its happened to me plenty of times.

The people camping the corners with cameras are a distraction and I am sure there have been more incidents.

Oh yeah theres been plenty of incidents!

check this guys page

http://www.youtube.com/user/rnickeymouse?feature=chclk

*DGthe3* · 10-26-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SK360

All I'm saying is don't act like you know the full situation.

He could have been half throttle to get up the hill, the auto downshifted unexpectedly and due to the wet roads he went sideways. Its happened to me plenty of times.

The people camping the corners with cameras are a distraction and I am sure there have been more incidents.

If the roads were slick, he shouldn't have been carrying that much speed though the corner. And he definitely shouldn't have hit the gas with the wheels turned. But lets take common sense and driving skill out of the equation. Isn't the general purpose of traction control to prevent the wheels from spinning when hitting the throttle, for just such an occasion?

Tallboy · 10-26-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SK360

All I'm saying is don't act like you know the full situation.

He could have been half throttle to get up the hill, the auto downshifted unexpectedly and due to the wet roads he went sideways. Its happened to me plenty of times.

The people camping the corners with cameras are a distraction and I am sure there have been more incidents.

Listen to the video, he's accelerating out of the corner-there is no downshift. And, OMG, the road was NOT wet-watch the video and listen to the tires screeching!

Tallboy · 10-26-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JIMMYRAY31B

Oh yeah theres been plenty of incidents!

check this guys page

http://www.youtube.com/user/rnickeymouse?feature=chclk

With exactly one incident of a car crossing the road hitting parked vehicles.

SK360 · 10-26-2010, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tallboy

Listen to the video, he's accelerating out of the corner-there is no downshift. And, OMG, the road was NOT wet-watch the video and listen to the tires screeching!

The road was not wet? I posted 2 pictures from the same corner showing the road is well soaked and somebody that was THERE posted pictures of the bad weather.. How hard headed are you?

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Originally Posted by Tallboy

With exactly one incident of a car crossing the road hitting parked vehicles.

A lot can be said to the idiots that park their vehicles on the inside of a dangerous section of the road. But never mind them.

Tallboy · 10-26-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SK360

The road was not wet? I posted 2 pictures from the same corner showing the road is well soaked and somebody that was THERE posted pictures of the bad weather.. How hard headed are you?

A lot can be said to the idiots that park their vehicles on the inside of a dangerous section of the road. But never mind them.

Show me the water in your pics. IF the road was wet, the car wouldn't have had the traction to cross the other lane, and that cloud of dust wouldn't be there! Show me where in that video the road is wet. Look at the tires on the car at the end of the video-covered in dry dirt/dust. Seriously, are you this blind?

The guys who parked on the inside of the road? You're right-totally their fault for being there.

SK360 · 10-26-2010, 03:44 PM

Really? Once again... Somebody that was THERE confirmed the roads were wet.

And take a closer look at these two photographs.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacs...7625192896912/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacs...7625192896912/

Particularly the yellow lines. Plain as day.

When you have a 3800lb car sliding into dirt/sand it is a given that dry shit underneath of the surface layer will be kicked up.

*DGthe3* · 10-26-2010, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tallboy

Show me the water in your pics. IF the road was wet, the car wouldn't have had the traction to cross the other lane, and that cloud of dust wouldn't be there! Show me where in that video the road is wet. Look at the tires on the car at the end of the video-covered in dry dirt/dust. Seriously, are you this blind?

The guys who parked on the inside of the road? You're right-totally their fault for being there.

Roads can sometimes remain slick for a little while after a rain due to the dirt and oil that gets lifted to the surface. Usually this is more associated with a light rain than a hard rain, since a downpour will just wash everything off.

Tallboy · 10-26-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SK360

Really? Once again... Somebody that was THERE confirmed the roads were wet.

And take a closer look at these two photographs.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacs...7625192896912/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacs...7625192896912/

Particularly the yellow lines. Plain as day.

When you have a 3800lb car sliding into dirt/sand it is a given that dry shit underneath of the surface layer will be kicked up.

Road looks wet on the bike photo. I agree with this. Judging by the lean angle of the bike, traction must have been horrible.

GTO pic-road looks dry, tires look dry, no water on paint. Watch the video and show me the wet road. If that road WAS wet, when he braked going into the corner, he'd have been in the guard rail.

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Roads can sometimes remain slick for a little while after a rain due to the dirt and oil that gets lifted to the surface. Usually this is more associated with a light rain than a hard rain, since a downpour will just wash everything off.

Agreed. I'm very aware of this. However, looking at the video and the amount of dust kicked up, and the tires being dry, I'm having a hard time believing the road was wet at the time of the accident.

Once again, let's say I'm wrong, and the road WAS wet. It makes this guy even more of a douche.

*Milk 1027* · 10-26-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tallboy

Show me the water in your pics. IF the road was wet, the car wouldn't have had the traction to cross the other lane, and that cloud of dust wouldn't be there! Show me where in that video the road is wet. Look at the tires on the car at the end of the video-covered in dry dirt/dust. Seriously, are you this blind?

The guys who parked on the inside of the road? You're right-totally their fault for being there.

seriously?
We've had several people who live in the area and who were there confirm that it was raining......

Tallboy · 10-26-2010, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Milk 1027

seriously?
We've had several people who live in the area and who were there confirm that it was raining......

Then why weren't his wipers on? I'm sure it was raining in other areas of the road, but, seriously-I'm still waiting for someone to watch that video and show me water or a wet road.

Why don't you be the first...

ssump29 · 10-26-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JIMMYRAY31B

Were have I said what I would have done in that situation? Besides I don't drive like that on public roads. I don't think I'm better than anyone. I drive my vehicles the way I want to where it doesn't impose on others on public roads. Not attacking just trying to understand why others defend this guy? He didn't own up to it or share it first! It was posted by someone else then he states he put in his police report that he was destracted by the cameras and lost control cause of wet roads. I guess him just saying yeah it was me is owning up?

So your close to a pro driver?

So your points are the most valid?

So from what you said above you drive like this on public roads?

If your a pro driver then you save this for the track?

Cudos to you for having the best performance parts on the market cause that makes you a better driver!

So if I say I'm a pro does that make my views more valid for this video?

I do tracks days on my bikes and take my car to the track! Thats were I drive the way these machines are meant to be driven!

EDIT: Just wanted to bold this! There is a 100% fail proof way to stop this! It's to not drive like that!

Ha I track drive because I make money off of it so no I don't have to test my car out on the public roads. Have I done it though before actually getting my car to the track sometimes YES. We all have and if you sit and say you've never gave it gas and peeled out a little or even did I donut while not on a track then you sir are full of it. We all have had our moments, maybe nothing have came from it but to act like you own a car like this but never taken off fast or anything else is hardly gonna be believe.

My point is why you feel the need to bash? This topic wasn't needed since you knew thats all this would cause.

BlessedChef10 · 10-26-2010, 04:30 PM

Funny guy . But the GTO drivers Im talking about have been total a$$es...wait kind of like you.....SK

brandotron · 10-26-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BlessedChef10

Funny guy . But the GTO drivers Im talking about have been total a$$es...wait kind of like you.....SK

10-26-2010, 04:30 PM	#69
BlessedChef10 BLESSEDCHEF10 Drives: 2010 2lt camaro rs Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: west hills,ca Posts: 696 View My Garage	Funny guy . But the GTO drivers Im talking about have been total a$$es...wait kind of like you.....SK __________________

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10-26-2010, 03:44 PM	#63
SK360 Account Suspended Drives: 2005 Pontiac GTO Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 591	Really? Once again... Somebody that was THERE confirmed the roads were wet. And take a closer look at these two photographs. http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacs...7625192896912/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacs...7625192896912/ Particularly the yellow lines. Plain as day. When you have a 3800lb car sliding into dirt/sand it is a given that dry shit underneath of the surface layer will be kicked up.