01-03-2011, 02:06 PM | #57 |
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Wow, that's a good, random thing to happen lol. I wondering about 1/4 and MPG ratings.
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01-03-2011, 02:19 PM | #59 |
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I'm guessing there will be a bump for both and hopefully they will be more equally matched.
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01-03-2011, 02:46 PM | #60 |
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i'm also assuming that since the engine will make more powerthe redline will be raised.
let's all hope it doesn't get buzzy like the Nissan V6. More hp is great but if you don't want to zing it because it's so buzzy, it's kind of pointless. |
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so true, and it boggles my mind as to why. because base mb c300 and is250 and base bmw 3 series are producing far less hp and tq then the LF1 and the mags just love those engines, and say they perform beautifully and have enough power. then when it comes to say cadillac w/ 270 hp 3.0L its under powered. just boggles my mind. how they say 270hp base car is under powered compared to another thats 215hp and say that car has perfect power. just amazes me how magazine critics can contradict themselves. |
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You mean the CTS?
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Anyways...this is exciting/interesting news, but I'm not ready to give up my LLT just yet! I'm going to need to see more official specs and power ratings before I become too jealous of the 2012 engine. Its not hard to get 330 - 340 HP out of the current LLT engine. That also puts you at around 290-300 TQ by the time you have those mods made. If you check out the stock engine HP/TQ rating on the LF1, it has impressive HP, but its TQ rating has a long ways to go before its going to move the heavy Camaro any faster than the current LLT. 223TQ for the LF1 while the LLT makes 278 TQ stock. Will upping the displacement to 3.6 get another 50 to 60 TQ out of the engine? Honestly, with no other changes to the car, the "LFX" is going to need 330 -340 and 300+ TQ to really compete with and likely topple the fastest track pack equipped mustang V6s....as sad as it is to say lol. But hey, jus to be talking power ratings like this for the V6 is still awsome as heck....can only imagine if the car weighed about like the previous gens did!
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01-03-2011, 04:17 PM | #65 |
Whoa, whoa, too much E85 bashing here, i wish people would read up on it instead of listening to all of the propaganda surrounding it. Ever notice that anything that has to do with change in America gets a bad rep?
- E85 does not effect the food prices at all, they use feed corn, and they boil what they need off the kernel which (for those of you who have voided your bowls before) is irrelevant to digestion or nutrition anyways, and with the abundance of corn in America its not like we're stealing good cattle feed corn from starving children in Africa, its perfectly harmless. - E85 does indeed get worse mileage than gasoline, but that is soley because the motor your burning it in is optimized for gasoline, even if it says "E85 compatible" that still just means "compatible" and doesnt mean it was built for that fuel. Motors built for E85 have been proven to get better mileage and horsepower than their gasoline counterparts, it just takes more than an E85 conversion kit to do it. - E85 would be less expensive if people werent so scared of it, many companies dont want to invest all their money into a product nobody wants, even if most of the reason people dont like it is from propaganda, for them its not about saving the world its about profit, if demand is low they will make lower amounts of it and less interest will promt less development which will keep the prices where they are. If more people were interested they would make more and the price would drop, then development would kick up and they would eliminate the difference between gaslone MPG and E85 MPG. - E85 has a higher octane so its a better performance fuel anyways. An all-american performance fuel thats better for the environment and potentially cheaper? Sounds like muscle car heaven to me. - E85 is a renewable resource, which gasoline is not. No matter how much E85 you use there will still be more to be made, keeping the price steady, again supply and demand. Gasoline will continue to rise because it is non-renewable and is becoming less and less scarce. - Increasing E85 production will put a lot of farmers to work, boosting corn production anyways, and odds are not all of that excess production will go straight to E85 production so in the end foreign countries might even see MORE food coming to them than without E85. - E85 is a huge economical boost for America, having a self-sustained fuel and a huge boost to farming and agriculture, plus the development and companies that get involved, it would pour money back into the economy, not only would it help your wallet and the environment but it would also help our country as a whole. - On a personal note, id much rather put a self-sustained American fuel in my American muscle car rather than put oil in it from the middle east. Which in fact have the prices hiked on them cause they know its a necessity for us, not to mention China and all the other countries wanting to buy it as well. Plus all the American oil tycoons who want to raise the price even after the price was raised from the first sellers. Sorry if i sound a little preachy, and if i seem to have hi-jacked the post, i just get a little ticked when people write things off without looking into it, they just listen to politicians and word of mouth, and im not calling anyone for that but the facts are out there and theyre very interesting especially to us muscle car guys. Anyways, back to the new Camaro V6 =P |
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Hmm if E85 is made from corn like moonshine can ya drive your car on it during the day and get drunk on it at nite? haha.
A lot of great changes comming up for the camaro, seems like it is back to stay.
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Holden supposedly came up with a fix for it but it doesn't meet EPA guidelines or something.
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