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trm0002 · 02-06-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by camaroconti@evs

It will be up to the guy that orders the cars..a manager or inventory guy like that. It will be only a NUMBER now,of what is available to be ordered in the next 30 days or so.Then GM will start to issue the allocation on a weekly basis, that is when our constraint report will mean something, when actual orders are being released to the plant for production.

Once consensus is done...shortly there after....we will be able to look at another report....

FINAL ALLOCATION BY WEEK. This report will help us better communicate on what Thursday an order is able to be tagged, pending on constraints (if any ) of course.

Greg and I can generate 100 Camaro order sheets right now, but if none of the above happen....they are just sheets as we said in the video we got our balls kicked in for.

Thanks guys!

OUCH !

I can almost feel your pain...

trm0002 · 02-06-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by camaroconti@evs

It will be up to the guy that orders the cars..a manager or inventory guy like that. It will be only a NUMBER now,...

Signifying what? Number of V6 and number of V8 individually?

camarogreg@evs · 02-06-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by trm0002

Signifying what? Number of V6 and number of V8 individually?

In the dealers consensus, there is one Camaro line showing how many they have earned for the month. That is inclusive of all Camaros. Where V6 and V8 play into this is the weekly constraint report. We are a Cadillac store and with CTS-V, if I have a CTS allocation available, it doesn't mean I can order a V.

In the case of Camaro, on the constraint report it will display how many V8's would be available nationally, then there is a column showing how many the dealer has available against the national number. If it is 0, then they must take a V6 or lose the allocation. If there is a number in the column, that is how many V8's they can order that week. It is a controled quantity by GM.

trm0002 · 02-06-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by camarogreg@evs

In the dealers consensus, there is one Camaro line showing how many they have earned for the month. That is inclusive of all Camaros. Where V6 and V8 play into this is the weekly constraint report. We are a Cadillac store and with CTS-V, if I have a CTS allocation available, it doesn't mean I can order a V.

In the case of Camaro, on the constraint report it will display how many V8's would be available nationally, then there is a column showing how many the dealer has available against the national number. If it is 0, then they must take a V6 or lose the allocation. If there is a number in the column, that is how many V8's they can order that week. It is a controled quantity by GM.

Whoa....

What about the dealer who has a PGN number of 5 and all of his pre-orders are V8?

Are you saying if he ends up showing he gets 1 car but no V8 he has to take a V6 or lose the one car? Doesn't that instantly screw the guy in position #5 ?

UCF w00t · 02-06-2009, 10:54 AM

So have you received your consensus number for the month? If so how many was it? What was your allocation number back in October? Just trying to get a feel for how many cars they'll be building the first month.

NUCAR · 02-06-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by UCF w00t

So have you received your consensus number for the month? If so how many was it? What was your allocation number back in October? Just trying to get a feel for how many cars they'll be building the first month.

I'll fess up to clear some of the smoke. 1/14.

playhard67 · 02-06-2009, 11:15 AM

^^^ so, is that 1 out of 14 allocated? Were you limited to ordering either a V6 or V8 or could you choose whatever you wanted?

trm0002 · 02-06-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by playhard67

^^^ so, is that 1 out of 14 allocated? Were you limited to ordering either a V6 or V8 or could you choose whatever you wanted?

From what I've read here, he won't know until the weekly constraint report. It will tell him which trim is available to order.

playhard67 · 02-06-2009, 11:19 AM

so there are two reports a consensus and a constraint. Are both coming out today?

trm0002 · 02-06-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by playhard67

so there are two reports a consensus and a constraint. Are both coming out today?

Correct and I don't know.

playhard67 · 02-06-2009, 11:23 AM

this is soooo confusing. The OP link on post one said that as of yesterday there were no constraints on the Camaro. I presume that yesterdays report was the "Constraint" report. I also presume that today we are expecting a "Consensus" report.

If he said 1/14. My presumption is that he got his consensus and was able to order one car. If there are no constraints as listed in the OP's link, then I presume he can order 1 car of whatever model.....

I'm presuming a lot here because I don't know sh*t

Sizzox · 02-06-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by playhard67

I'm presuming a lot here because I don't know sh*t

We all know nothing haha. And it sucks.

trm0002 · 02-06-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by playhard67

this is soooo confusing. The OP link on post one said that as of yesterday there were no constraints on the Camaro. I presume that yesterdays report was the "Constraint" report. I also presume that today we are expecting a "Consensus" report.

If he said 1/14. My presumption is that he got his consensus and was able to order one car. If there are no constraints as listed in the OP's link, then I presume he can order 1 car of whatever model.....

I'm presuming a lot here because I don't know sh*t

You and me both my friend. I'm going with the "two report" thing based on EVS Greg's post above.

camarogreg@evs · 02-06-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by trm0002

Whoa....

What about the dealer who has a PGN number of 5 and all of his pre-orders are V8?

Are you saying if he ends up showing he gets 1 car but no V8 he has to take a V6 or lose the one car? Doesn't that instantly screw the guy in position #5 ?

You get it, sir!

In this case guy 5 is screwed. We have been saying all along and GM has said as well, you will NOT get all V8's. Gm stated in the IDL a few weeks ago that this will fall back on the dealers for over selling their allocation. Now this is just through October. After the initial roll out of the car, production should catch up and everyone will get their V8's. Just not in the first few months. The "Estimated Ship" number all dealers received were through October allocation.

02-06-2009, 11:15 AM	#63
playhard67 come to poppa Drives: 67RS,09 Harley FLHX Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,098	^^^ so, is that 1 out of 14 allocated? Were you limited to ordering either a V6 or V8 or could you choose whatever you wanted? __________________ Cancelled the 2010 SS/RS (for now) and bought this instead (2009 Harley FLHX)

02-06-2009, 11:19 AM	#65
playhard67 come to poppa Drives: 67RS,09 Harley FLHX Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,098	so there are two reports a consensus and a constraint. Are both coming out today? __________________ Cancelled the 2010 SS/RS (for now) and bought this instead (2009 Harley FLHX)

02-06-2009, 11:23 AM	#67
playhard67 come to poppa Drives: 67RS,09 Harley FLHX Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,098	this is soooo confusing. The OP link on post one said that as of yesterday there were no constraints on the Camaro. I presume that yesterdays report was the "Constraint" report. I also presume that today we are expecting a "Consensus" report. If he said 1/14. My presumption is that he got his consensus and was able to order one car. If there are no constraints as listed in the OP's link, then I presume he can order 1 car of whatever model..... I'm presuming a lot here because I don't know sh*t __________________ Cancelled the 2010 SS/RS (for now) and bought this instead (2009 Harley FLHX)

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02-06-2009, 10:54 AM	#61
UCF w00t Geek Drives: IOM 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Orlando Posts: 4,451	So have you received your consensus number for the month? If so how many was it? What was your allocation number back in October? Just trying to get a feel for how many cars they'll be building the first month.