2010 Camaro SS drag video with 2011 Mustang GT 5.0

[GoBlue20]

Originally Posted by 08-G35s/6MT

ok. It will run low-mid 12s(minimum) if you put slicks on it, hell it will run 11s with basic bolt ons and slicks ! There's an owner on here that has been running consistent 12s with his new Mustang GT 5.0 automatic, he traded in his LS3 Camaro for it and has posted timeslips !

Here's one running 11s only with a tune/bolt ons and making 405 rwhp.




This just has slicks and a Lethal Performance 3" Offroad X-pipe. It ran 12.35 @ 111 mph.

Ya they are BAD cars. With slicks I can see it mid 12s. I just dont think any car can run a 12.7 with stock 255s IMO. I think they did an estimate. This includes a Camaro... if the Camaro had 255s I dont see it running a 12.9/13.0 either. I don't know. Unless they are doing something with traction control that I don't understand

[SGOS252382]

The Camaro is actually at a penalty. The 20" wheels/tires of the Camaro cost it .1-.2 in the 1/4 mile.
If the Camaro SS came with 19" wheel/tires it would run faster track times.

Don't forget. In almost every video I've seen, the Mustang 5.0 gets off the line faster than the Camaro SS. The Mustang 5.0 hooks up quite well with its 255 series tires. It also has a higher lateral G. grip with these tires.
The fastest stock 5.0 times have come with real fast (for stock) 60' times. You don't run fast 60' times without having excellent traction off the line.

If the 5.0 ran the same tires as the Camaro, it would be a slower car.

[JHL88]

Originally Posted by wbt

I have read through all the drivel across multiple sites. It is the same people regurgitating. The % of MT-82 owners with a legitimate issue is no higher than the TR6060 owners guaranteed.

actually you're wrong. look over to svtperformance.com and take a gander. they also had an article about it on jalopnik or autoblog

[thePill]

Originally Posted by JHL88

actually you're wrong. look over to svtperformance.com and take a gander. they also had an article about it on jalopnik or autoblog

I love my MT82, I think it is a relatively small issue that is isolated to a few. If it were that bad, someone with a 5.0 over here would have had a problem by now... so far there hasn't been. I think it is wishful thinking on some Camaro fanboys part. I wouldn't take 50-60 claims (because that is pretty much all I have seen and most of them are fluid issues) and say that it is a world wide problem. Range Rover uses the MT82 and they had the same issues with fluid.

Here is the fix, read the TSB that Ford sent out and follow the instructions....

[JHL88]

Originally Posted by thePill

I love my MT82, I think it is a relatively small issue that is isolated to a few. If it were that bad, someone with a 5.0 over here would have had a problem by now... so far there hasn't been. I think it is wishful thinking on some Camaro fanboys part. I wouldn't take 50-60 claims (because that is pretty much all I have seen and most of them are fluid issues) and say that it is a world wide problem. Range Rover uses the MT82 and they had the same issues with fluid.

i wouldn't wish it. i actually almost traded in my camaro for a 5.0 6 speed. i had test driven one twice prior before this one (took it home for a night) i liked it alot but noticed that the shifting was a bit difficult at higher rpm's. compared to the other ones i had test driven. BUT i was simply stating that the tranny problem in the stangs was/is more widespread than the 5th gens.

[JHL88]

http://jalopnik.com/5792482/faulty-c...w-ford-mustang its a bit more than 50-60 claims according to this

[GoBlue20]

Originally Posted by SGOS252382

The Camaro is actually at a penalty. The 20" wheels/tires of the Camaro cost it .1-.2 in the 1/4 mile.
If the Camaro SS came with 19" wheel/tires it would run faster track times.

Don't forget. In almost every video I've seen, the Mustang 5.0 gets off the line faster than the Camaro SS. The Mustang 5.0 hooks up quite well with its 255 series tires. It also has a higher lateral G. grip with these tires.
The fastest stock 5.0 times have come with real fast (for stock) 60' times. You don't run fast 60' times without having excellent traction off the line.

If the 5.0 ran the same tires as the Camaro, it would be a slower car.

I know... the taller the tires the more rotations to turn it. Thats why I would never buy the 21"s for it. It still seems crazy to me that a car that light without very wide tires can hook up and go without losing a ton through traction control trying to hook up. I had a G8 GT that I had some bolt-ons/tune with 245s in the back on 19" rims and it was all over the road once it dropped into pasing gear WOT (unless I was doing ovr 50mph). Although.. this WAS on the road and NOT a track. Either way... although I'm not big on how it looks and believe Ford could've made it look more "retro"... I do like the 5.0. The upside to that is some competition to go along with all the 14 second mustangs that run around here

[BigDan]

Originally Posted by GoBlue20

Ya they are BAD cars. With slicks I can see it mid 12s. I just dont think any car can run a 12.7 with stock 255s IMO. I think they did an estimate. This includes a Camaro... if the Camaro had 255s I dont see it running a 12.9/13.0 either. I don't know. Unless they are doing something with traction cantrol that I don't understand

Member HeaterMan was running those times bone stock his first day out after trading his 2010 SS in for his current 2011 GT.

The thread is here and you can search his username if you want to find more proof. Heck even Motor Trend is running 12's with their vert's.

Its been a week since the trade.....Initial thoughts

[Huggerorange73]

It never ends does it

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

It never ends does it

No, as soon as this thread dies someone (not a Camaro owner) will start a new thread trying to prove the Mustang 5.0 is faster or better than the Camaro.

We all know why they're here. The Camaro and this forum are #1.

[GoBlue20]

Originally Posted by BigDan

Member HeaterMan was running those times bone stock his first day out after trading his 2010 SS in for his current 2011 GT.

The thread is here and you can search his username if you want to find more proof. Heck even Motor Trend is running 12's with their vert's.

Its been a week since the trade.....Initial thoughts

I realize the elevation/roads here are different. I'm not asking for "proof"... just posting a thought. Looking at the pic and the tires on your car... I'd have to imagine traction isn't an issue for you either

[GoBlue20]

Originally Posted by RAYSRT8

I was recently at the Bowling Green KY Track and there was a stock mustang there that ran 12.4 on stock motor and trans. I looked the car over and there were no mods at all under the hood. Owner stated that the vehicle did not have a tune as well.

Thats crazy. 12.4? Thats a factory freak or somethin. And probably a lot better driver than I am. Have you ran your SRT8 yet?

[Fiftydriver]

Lets see, the stang is alot lighter and has alot lower gears.....

It damn well better get out of the hole faster!!!

That said, apples to apples, that being gear a camaro the same and it will be a much different story.

As far as the comment about the stangs picking up more performance with add ons does not make any sense to me. From what I have seen, the factory motors are wound pretty tight as they come from the factory. The 6.2 GM motor is severely detuned from the factory

Tune the camaro with some add ons and its not all that hard to get 500 HP at the crank. Compared to the 550 HP (advertised) for the GT500 it seems pretty weak.

Throw a S/C on a properly tuned LS3 and 550 HP will be left far behind.

In the end however, the most important factor to remember, no matter what you do to a stang, its still a damn stang. I have never driven by a stang from the past 10 years that made me say DAMN, thats a nice car. The Camaros make me think that every time I see one. Obviously I am a bit biased but all you have to do is look at the sales numbers and it must be a common opinion!!! and getting much more common.

[JHL88]

Originally Posted by Fiftydriver

Lets see, the stang is alot lighter and has alot lower gears.....

It damn well better get out of the hole faster!!!

That said, apples to apples, that being gear a camaro the same and it will be a much different story.

As far as the comment about the stangs picking up more performance with add ons does not make any sense to me. From what I have seen, the factory motors are wound pretty tight as they come from the factory. The 6.2 GM motor is severely detuned from the factory

Tune the camaro with some add ons and its not all that hard to get 500 HP at the crank. Compared to the 550 HP (advertised) for the GT500 it seems pretty weak.

Throw a S/C on a properly tuned LS3 and 550 HP will be left far behind.

In the end however, the most important factor to remember, no matter what you do to a stang, its still a damn stang. I have never driven by a stang from the past 10 years that made me say DAMN, thats a nice car. The Camaros make me think that every time I see one. Obviously I am a bit biased but all you have to do is look at the sales numbers and it must be a common opinion!!! and getting much more common.

the 5.0's seem to be underrated, from what ive seen with higher peak power than the LS3. the 5th gen m6's dyno what.. 360-370 stock with 426 at the crank? that seems pretty dead on to me. throwing a supercharger on a ls3 compared to a gt500 is irrelevant, throw on a whipple on a 5.0 and see how it compares to a ls3