3 months with Number 3, so a Camaro review by ME

[camarolt76]

Thanks for taking the time to do the write up. It was very helpful to me and very good!

[b4z]

I don't have word on my computer. wish this was a pdf.

[camarosc35]

What concerns me is the handling, the skid pad results, .88, as well as the Motor Trend video which shows that the driver had to actually prevent the car from skidding out of control during the slalom test. The essence of my '69 Camaro (Unibody helped, I bet) is that only did it look timelessly beautiful, but it had the power and superb handling. The new one seems to have downgraded the handling perhaps in favor of the independent rear wheel suspension as well as that other disappointment, the weight, 3,800 pounds worth, that is a porker, to me! Not sure, but I think the '69 was in the 3,400 hundred curb weight range. That is, there are structural limitations on this newest generation that I do not think can be addressed. I read there were two development groups working on the Camaro, the first wanted to build a completely “retro” version much like the early version Mustang and new Challenger, Lutz opted for this one. I kind of wish he went with the first team, instead. You know what? I went and tried to find some of these online and looks like the Chevy team co-opted them so all you see is this produced version, kind of proves my point. I bet the retro model would have had not only the looks but the reduced weight and superior handling to go along with it.

[codykniffen]

Originally Posted by b4z

I don't have word on my computer. wish this was a pdf.

Ask and ye shall receive.

[Evilkosh99]

Thanks Number 3 -- great review!

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Libertyforall1776

1. HD Radio is not expensive, and no monthly fees, unlike Satellite radio.
2. Having a NAV Screen OPTION does not raise any price, just how a sunroof is an OPTION.
3. Heck, 2009 is the shutoff of analog broadcast TV, but here we are with no free digital radio as even an option in a 2010 car...

However, the number of people that would actually pay for a $2,000 NAV radio is very small. The number buying $900 sunroof is very high. There is substantial tooling and development costs involved in nearly every option. Traditionally there are very few people in this segment that pay (depending on your sticker) 5 to 10% more for NAV Radio. Plus with the huge popularity in Garmin, Tom Tom etc. the sales volume for built in NAV is even lower, expecailly in this segment. OnStar turn by turn is actually better in every way except you don't see the map.

Originally Posted by Libertyforall1776

CTF stands for what? When people use acronyms, it's best practice to define it first, then use the abbreviation afterwards...

Captured Test Fleet. Sorry, but a lot of people on Camaro5 have read my posts and know that. I wasn't thinking of the new members. My bad.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Libertyforall1776

1. HD Radio is not expensive, and no monthly fees, unlike Satellite radio.
2. Having a NAV Screen OPTION does not raise any price, just how a sunroof is an OPTION.
3. Heck, 2009 is the shutoff of analog broadcast TV, but here we are with no free digital radio as even an option in a 2010 car...

Well, when you can come up with the money for the engineering, development, and integration of those features, be sure to send the check to GM.

[gm4life05sle]

Great honest review. It really doesn't sound like this car has any downsides except the smallish trunk opening but at least it has plenty of room inside.

[bumblebee rules]

Thanks for the write Number 3, hope you do not have to give them up any time soon,, in the mean time go and have a blast in them and enjoy the ride . Thanks for sharing...:-)

[gen5-ss]

I would love to read the "3 months with Number 3" review but my computer apparently doesn't have the program it was typed on so I cannot get it. I have the Microsoft Works Word Processor on my computer. I'm also not very good at computers. Can anyone cut and paste this review to the program I have or offer any other suggestions so I can access it? Thanks.

Ordered RJT 2SS, RS, 6M 10/30/08. TPW 4/13/09. Current order status at 2000

[codykniffen]

Originally Posted by gen5-ss

I would love to read the "3 months with Number 3" review but my computer apparently doesn't have the program it was typed on so I cannot get it. I have the Microsoft Works Word Processor on my computer. I'm also not very good at computers. Can anyone cut and paste this review to the program I have or offer any other suggestions so I can access it? Thanks.

If you would have read the whole thread, you would have seen that I already converted his document to PDF format. See the following link.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...2&postcount=63

[LS3SSRS]

good review man... this wait is killing me

[spi]

thank you for taking the time to write that up number 3, we all appreciate it

[gen5-ss]

Thanks codykniffen but I had tried that as well and got the following:

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