Chevy Vs Ford Debate

[truth411]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

Your kidding me, right? Instead of pulling things out of your ass, maybe do a little research, mmkay?

The Viper beat the ZR1's time around the nurburgring, 7:22 vs 7:26.

My argument still stands. And it's still a stupid debate.

NO SIR!!!! The ZR1 shaved 4 seconds off that lap time last year, it is now
7:22.4 seconds. That is only .3 seconds off of the Viper ACR which is not street legal (front splitter) and is striped out with cup tires. The ZR1 is his hand down superior. Do some reseach yourself aswell.

http://www.motorauthority.com/corvet...g-in-7264.html

[drivingincamaro]

oh boy

[djsnoflake]

Originally Posted by kevin2323

the viper is a stock viper acr...they sell it on showroom floors and is built in the fsctory just like every other car. no excuses cmon....you guys are better than that.

I know it is a stock car, and street legal and it's in a showroom. I am saying it comes with no carpet, no radio, no AC, no passenger seat, 14 way adjustable suspension and aero parts and all out racing tires. It is made to be on a track, and there it does an amazing job. I would not want to drive one on the street, to work, or on a road trip however, unless I was married to a chiropractor.

Viper= amazing, I am just saying that for all the creature comforts you lose, I will take the car that is .3 second (Thats right tenths of a second) slower.

If you want the fastest car, get the Viper, if you want something that can at least possibly be used as a daily driver, I'd be gunning for a ZR-1.

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by truth411

NO SIR!!!! The ZR1 shaved 4 seconds off that lap time last year, it is now
7:22.4 seconds. That is only .3 seconds off of the Viper ACR which is not street legal (front splitter) and is striped out with cup tires. The ZR1 is his hand down superior. Do some reseach yourself aswell.

http://www.motorauthority.com/corvet...g-in-7264.html

Well isnt that a bitchslap into the mouth of justice.


















I dont know what i mean by that.

[Lovestanda]

Have a 1300 cc bike that will toast a Ferrari. Power to weight is where it's at for sure. Large engine dosen't mean better or quicker track times. HOWEVER, try driving a large powerful engine such as a new Camaro. You'll be easily converted from the turbo toaster you currently drive. There's just something about a powerful V-8 that can't be ignored. You don't feel a SMALL BUZZY ENGINE THE SAME WAY AS YOU DO A V-8. DRIVE BOTH AND TELL ME i'M WRONG!!! Someone on this board actually defended a CIVIC SI when compared to a new SS Camaro. Rock on with your 100+ HP and minimal torque. Again, if you think it's cool then, it's cool!!! It just may not be as fast as a Camaro!!!!

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[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by Lovestanda

Have a 1300 cc bike that will toast a Ferrari. Power to weight is where it's at for sure. Large engine dosen't mean better or quicker track times. HOWEVER, try driving a large powerful engine such as a new Camaro. You'll be easily converted from the turbo toaster you currently drive. There's just something about a powerful V-8 that can't be ignored. You don't feel a SMALL BUZZY ENGINE THE SAME WAY AS YOU DO A V-8. DRIVE BOTH AND TELL ME i'M WRONG!!! Someone on this board actually defended a CIVIC SI when compared to a new SS Camaro. Rock on with your 100+ HP and minimal torque. Again, if you think it's cool then, it's cool!!! It just may not be as fast as a Camaro!!!!

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There is a big difference between going 0-60 because your car is light, and going 0-60 because your the victim of 425+hp

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by djsnoflake

I know it is a stock car, and street legal and it's in a showroom. I am saying it comes with no carpet, no radio, no AC, no passenger seat, 14 way adjustable suspension and aero parts and all out racing tires. It is made to be on a track, and there it does an amazing job. I would not want to drive one on the street, to work, or on a road trip however, unless I was married to a chiropractor.

Viper= amazing, I am just saying that for all the creature comforts you lose, I will take the car that is .3 second (Thats right tenths of a second) slower.

If you want the fastest car, get the Viper, if you want something that can at least possibly be used as a daily driver, I'd be gunning for a ZR-1.

yeah i get ya im just trying to make sure the koolaid drinkers know the car is off the showroom floor

[LS3SSRS]

haha, as soon as i read the viper is faster than the zr1 round the ring i thought, well ya acr version...but you all cleared that up. i dunno who would want to buy an acr viper in the first place. really $$$ and i'm sure the ride would be horrible on the streets. unless all u do is race on a track, i would be getting a zr1. well, not that i could afford either, just sayin

[djsnoflake]

Originally Posted by LS3SSRS

haha, as soon as i read the viper is faster than the zr1 round the ring i thought, well ya acr version...but you all cleared that up. i dunno who would want to buy an acr viper in the first place. really $$$ and i'm sure the ride would be horrible on the streets. unless all u do is race on a track, i would be getting a zr1. well, not that i could afford either, just sayin

Me neither bro, but it's nice to dream

[manimsoblack]

i would love to park a 2010 Camaro SS next to a 2010 Mustang GT in my garage. I saw one of the 2010 GT's at work yesterday and i really like the styling...

[Zabo]

Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

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There is a big difference between going 0-60 because your car is light, and going 0-60 because your the victim of 425+hp

Dunno if this was brought up..but what if GM actually canned the LS archetecture? We ARE still using pushrods.. and I think this is probably the last engine in GM's parts bin to use CIB.

Why not retool a Northstar DOHC LH2 and bore to 4.9(302ci)? Port for DI and we could cream ford's offering of the 5.0(304ci) Raptor. Also, note the displacement and read your history. What OTHER Camaro had a 302ci Small Block as an RPO?

[ArcAngel]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Unless the brand you limit yourself to has no limits!


The Chevy vs. Ford thing is timeless...it's been a topic forever, and it will continue to be. Frankly -- I think it should be Chevy + Ford vs. the
Imports. They are...the unbeatable team. What one doesn't have, the other does -- and their quality, etc is impeccable. :flag2:

Totally agree!

[ArcAngel]

Originally Posted by manimsoblack

i would love to park a 2010 Camaro SS next to a 2010 Mustang GT in my garage. I saw one of the 2010 GT's at work yesterday and i really like the styling...

Amen to that two!! Add a Challenger SRT8 and my garage is excellent!!! I'm all about it imagine three bays one with a SS one with a GT and another with SRT8 holy of holies would i be the proverbial pig in shit!

[duder4thgen]

Originally Posted by kevin2323

I havent seen any stock c6 z06's running 10s like the viper is....good try though...

Actually.....

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/05/10-second-stock-c6-corvette-z06-on-run-flats/

I've been a GM fan all my life, but Ford securing huge equity right before market crash= WIN.

If the unthinkable happens to GM, I'll take a Rustang GT with a track pack, please.