ZL1 - Motor Trends 2012 Best Drivers Car... Maybe

[zl1bro]

Originally Posted by Good2go

Ok, they criticize the ZL1 for being heavy, saying a 2-ton car cannot be the best Driver's car. Look how much the C63 weighs... No mention of its weight.

Interesting point. And the performance stats for these two are remarkably close. The C63 however costs TWICE as much as the ZL1. I guess the subjective experience of being behind the wheel of these two was quite different for the MT testers. Others have said it before: the camaro 'feels' big...

[72MachOne99GT]

I think it boils down to having the maturity to admit there are flaws.

I spent 56,xxx on a car that should have bigger tires and that's the only SRA non-truck choice in its segment.

I'll leave the ZL1 admissions to you guys

[zl1bro]

Originally Posted by 101fng

That whole article is full of contradictions. They mentioned not including the ZR1 because the 2010 GT500 beat it in the last BDC. So does that mean that the ZL1 is superior to the ZR1 since the ZL1 beat out the 2013 GT500 this time? It's not about performance numbers yet they're running timed laps and complaining about weight figures. From a buyers perspective, BDC is about as useful as manufacturer propaganda (11's all day stock and 200mph top speed, for example). It's baseless and subjective. Thanks MT for wasting 5 minutes of my day so that I could read your article.

I don't think they do a good enough job of articulating the reasons for their rankings. They say that they rank based more on the 'subjective' experience of driving the cars but when it comes to making the fine distinctions BETWEEN the cars for the rankings you are left scratching your head after reading their descriptions. And as far as the Subaru BRZ is concerned, who the f**k cares?

[TheReaper]

I was impressed that the GT500 turned a better track time than the 911.

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by GtSmoke

Intro and Behind the Scenes





Hot Laps of the 9 - Fastest to Slowest - Same day, same track, same driver.



















The results:

9th - Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4
8th - Jaguar XKR-S
7th - Ford Shelby GT500
6th - Chevy Camaro ZL1
5th - McLaren MP4-12C
4th - Subaru BRZ
3rd - Nissan GT-R
2nd - Mercedes-Benz C63
1st - Porsche 911 Carrera S

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...t_drivers_car/

We may have beat the GT500, but this quote really hurts "It's slower than the Shelby, makes less power, and turned in a worse lap time. Not only that, but we were in unanimous agreement that the Shelby and its quicker turn-in was more fun to drive."
The fact that a Camaro is competing with cars of this level is AMAZING!!

I did agree with this statement. The Shelby was more fun. The Boss was more fun. Heck an M3 was more fun. Then I drove the ZL1 convertible. Fun. Big time stupi smile on my face fun. Totally adds what the ZL1 was lacking by simply removing the roof. Amazing, amazing car.

[Good2go]

Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

C63 is heavy because its a luxury car, ZL1 is heavy because GM chose to put a coupe on a platform almost exclusively designed for sedans.

No dispute there. My problem is selective discrimination. The ZL1 is not the only heavyweight in this competition.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

Most of my posts are actually anti-retard to be honest…..

You're negative, deal with it we do.


Didn't watch the final episode, however I'm somewhat surprised at the rankings after seeing all of Randy's "real time" driving impressions. They don't quite balance out.

[cbass]

We may have beat the GT500, but this quote really hurts "It's slower than the Shelby, makes less power, and turned in a worse lap time. Not only that, but we were in unanimous agreement that the Shelby and its quicker turn-in was more fun to drive."
The fact that a Camaro is competing with cars of this level is AMAZING!!

Ouch is right. If the GT500 had better brakes, then a live axle car with Blinstein suspension would have beat a IRS magnetic ride car.

[MrDew]

Originally Posted by cbass

Ouch is right. If the GT500 had better brakes, then a live axle car with Blinstein suspension would have beat a IRS magnetic ride car.

If if if... What if the zl1 had more power? We could bench race all day! ;-)

[cbass]

Originally Posted by MrDew

If if if... What if the zl1 had more power? We could bench race all day! ;-)

Well it did post better lap times. It just wasn't picked as the better "drivers" car. So if you care about performance then the GT500 has the numbers.

[jimmy5]

The GT500 does have the better numbers, it has almost 100 more HP and has less weight.
No one can argue that.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by jimmy5

The GT500 does have the better numbers, it has almost 100 more HP and has less weight.
No one can argue that.

Goldenbear would argue it. Hell I spent two threads worth arguing that and he never acknowledged it lol

[C5RocksC5]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Goldenbear would argue it. Hell I spent two threads worth arguing that and he never acknowledged it lol

nahhhhhhh

[LimaCharlie]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

WOW, I never thought I would see the day that an lp700 was behind a mustang, a camaro, and a $24,000 subaru miata LOL

I was thinking the same thing. Money isn't everything.