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Old 12-30-2012, 10:47 AM   #57
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With the full zl1 front conversion(wheel wells) it adds that extra plastic to enclose the engine bay. Currently I have the air dam for the radiator(stock ss) off and there is flow directly through to the transmission then exit where the pan will be. Does any know if I need to install the dam again? It looks like enough outside air will pass through radiator without the dam in place. This also might help with downforce, cooling bay etc...
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:59 PM   #58
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The only time Im gonna use the Belly Pan is for Mojave Mile(s) and Silver State Classic Challenge(s). Every time I do the Mile, the frontend lifts at 140+mph and the Mojave Magnum I barely went over 180.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:22 PM   #59
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Made some progress today with the belly pan mockup. I cut out the test pieces from fiberglass sheets and fitted them. Looks good so far. The biggest decisions right now are what material and thickness to use for the pan. Also different fastener types are being tossed around. The ZL1 fasteners won't work unless I want to do a lot of filing on the frame. They use rectangular holes to mount the metal fasteners. I'm looking to make this install as easy as possible so it can be repeated. Also the pan is in two pieces so only the rear section has to be taken down for an oil change.

Right now I'm leaning towards aluminum simple because I can use thin material to avoid excess weight. My friend has the equipment to roll aluminum to make ridge to add strength to flat pieces. Here's some pictures so far of the mockup.





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Old 01-21-2013, 06:29 PM   #60
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:35 PM   #61
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great work Bannonm. the 2 piece idea to make oil changes easier is genious. have you looked into self tapping self seating screws for your fastener issue? also are you afraid of the thin aluminum flexing and sort of flaping without structural support?
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:56 PM   #62
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great work Bannonm. the 2 piece idea to make oil changes easier is genious. have you looked into self tapping self seating screws for your fastener issue? also are you afraid of the thin aluminum flexing and sort of flaping without structural support?
Thanks. I picked up a threaded rivet tool from Harbour Tools. Just drill a hole and put the rivet in and squeeze with the tool. Leaves a threaded rivet up to 1/4" threads. I was hoping to find a metric one because the body panel bolts the ZL1 pan uses are perfect for this. I can buy those at Ace HW for about a third of what GM wants. But I could only find those in metric sizes. Still looking.

As for the thin aluminum, yeah that concerns me. But we're going to give it a try with the tools my friend has for metal working. You can create ridges and edges with them that help stiffen thinner metals. If you have ever seen metal signs where they have raised edges and lettering, it's sort of that idea. I like the idea of aluminum over plastic because I can shape and bend the aluminum to fit the contours of the frame.

If you look at the first picture between the headers, that's were the NACA ducts will be placed. That area of metal has nothing to support it so potentially it will flap. If the ducts don't tighten things up, I'll use aluminum angle to give it support. The ducts will go between those two black curved lines. Looking at aftermarket ducts I can buy, or fiberglass molding to make my own.

Now that I have a pattern from fiberglass I can cut as many pans as I need for trial and error in different thicknesses, or materials.

Forgot to mention, the pan will complement my new heat extracting hood. It is vented in the front and the rear of the cowl. The cowl is an inch taller than stock so I should get some decent air exhaust.

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Old 01-22-2013, 03:54 PM   #63
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Soooo... can we get some more pictures of the tied up blonde while we wait to see the finished product?
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:21 PM   #64
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Made some progress today with the belly pan mockup. I cut out the test pieces from fiberglass sheets and fitted them. Looks good so far. The biggest decisions right now are what material and thickness to use for the pan. Also different fastener types are being tossed around. The ZL1 fasteners won't work unless I want to do a lot of filing on the frame. They use rectangular holes to mount the metal fasteners. I'm looking to make this install as easy as possible so it can be repeated. Also the pan is in two pieces so only the rear section has to be taken down for an oil change.

Right now I'm leaning towards aluminum simple because I can use thin material to avoid excess weight. My friend has the equipment to roll aluminum to make ridge to add strength to flat pieces. Here's some pictures so far of the mockup.





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Old 01-27-2013, 08:33 AM   #65
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Just finished the mold plug for the NACA ducts. It needs some final prepping but almost ready to begin making sample ducts from.

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Old 02-19-2013, 08:59 PM   #66
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Finally got my aluminum sheet and have the pan cut out. The mold plug for the naca duct is finished. I mounted the pan tonight and took some quick shots. Not all the fasteners are in, but you get the idea.

Two piece pan so oil changes are easier. The naca duct obviously is not installed, have to make the fiberglass part and cut out the rear plate for it.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:05 PM   #67
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Man that is sweet!! We need to get some templates printed!
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:22 PM   #68
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you did great work! gm should have done the two piece...they need to hire you
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:48 AM   #69
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Man that looks great.
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:34 AM   #70
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@Bannonm That looks fantastic! Interested in duplicating one for me? I have no problem driving that little distance come warm weather.

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