Any blown up ZL1 engines yet?

[v8]

Originally Posted by blackzl1az

Nope

Originally Posted by SC2150

None we have seen.

How long have you guys been around? What about this?

SC2150 you actually commented about the blown engine in the thread below and then say "none we have seen"

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ht=Zl1+failure

Never heard of an unmodified 5.8 going bad.

Not trying to flame anyone, but just saying. Fanboyism getting out of hand

[v8]

Let's all play nice, at the end of the day these machines are all great works of art!!!!

[v8]

Amazing how this thread came to a halt.

[sxty9GTO]

Didnt DblChby blow an oil pump up in his ZL1?

[newmoon]

5.8 can have it's problems as well. Here you go 727 rwhp
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...-happened.html

[luckynuts]

Originally Posted by sxty9GTO

Didnt DblChby blow an oil pump up in his ZL1?

Yup

[hognutz]

everybody realizes that a troll dug up like a 1.5 year old thread right.


as much as everybody whats to hate or bicker I think both engines have proven to be reliable. they both have forged crank, they both have PF rods, lsa has hyper pistons 5.8 has forged.

the 5.8l has a 2.3L blower and that is where the advangae kicks in. at 15spi the LSA is out of effciency.

[v8]

Originally Posted by newmoon

5.8 can have it's problems as well. Here you go 727 rwhp
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...-happened.html

I said in my thread "Never heard of an unmodified 5.8 going bad" and you sent me a link to a modified 5.8???

The link in my thread was for an unmodified LSA exploding.

[v8]

Originally Posted by hognutz

everybody realizes that a troll dug up like a 1.5 year old thread right.


as much as everybody whats to hate or bicker I think both engines have proven to be reliable. they both have forged crank, they both have PF rods, lsa has hyper pistons 5.8 has forged.

the 5.8l has a 2.3L blower and that is where the advangae kicks in. at 15spi the LSA is out of effciency.

Well said Hognutz, but I take offence to you calling me a troll.
I'm no troll and have been on this forum for years. I was just getting tired of everyone spreading false information. I didn't mind everyone saying how great the LSA is, but don't lie and say that one has never blown up. Especially the members who posted here and said they have not heard of one blowing up when in fact they were posters in the blow up thread.
They just got caught with their hand in the cookie jar....

The LSA is a great engine and I love the pushrod design, simple and compact, and interesting to talk about, but I just don't care for the fanboyism.

I apologise if I offended anyone, but when people say things that are not true its just not right as there are many people who come to this forum for information and we should try to put out accurate information. How do we look to others if we sound like we don't know what we are talking about?

Also the thread I dug up was from Feb/March 2013. It was about 1 year old as its now March 2014, so respectfully I don't think that qualifies as 1.5 years as you put it.

To me what's the big deal, if an engine fails when its modified so what? What bothered me it wasn't even a modified LSA that exploded, it was a stock one.

We are all car nuts and are on this forum for one reason or another. My reason is I like to learn and enjoy conversing with others. I also would like to think that when I read information here its as accurate as can be.

You have been around too for a while Hognuts, I'm not mad but actually dissapointed you called me a troll. I didn't expect that from you.

[hognutz]

Originally Posted by v8

I said in my thread "Never heard of an unmodified 5.8 going bad" and you sent me a link to a modified 5.8???

The link in my thread was for an unmodified LSA exploding.

I have seen one with just tune and headers blow up. I have not seen stock. honeslty though the one you are refering to was just a part flaw. bad valve or bad spring somthing like that. it was not a design issue or anyting.

I mean my car has more mods simple tune an exhaust and is hanging together. it was a lund tune and he is supposed to be good.

not everybody posts on the forum I am sure thre could have been a case somewhere when a GT500 got a bad valve or sping and died. that kind of stuff just happens once you build 10k of something.

for example I have seen multiple axle failures on the GT500 and none yet on the Zl1 but there could be one out there somewhere. The clutch failure rate seems to be a tick higher on the GT500 which having 100 more HP and 3.31 gears I am sure contributes to that. if the Zl1 had 600whp stock and 3.31 gears maybe there would be more clutch threads.


like I said I think people are trying to create issues that are not there. both of these cars have some issues but all in all I think most owners are happy. some are not though on both sides. some of the clutch failures were denied to stock cars and ford owners were pissed. some Zl1 owners hate the isolator rattle and have had front bearings dry up ont he suprecharger and they have not been happy about it.

I think both cars are rad in there own ways. the GT500 just has moster accerlarion. the Zl1 just seem to have great blalance. I stuggle to make the car feel scary like my Z06 or a GT500. I had to mod the power level though stock it was lacking IMO. the GT500 has plenty of power even stock IMO.


I would have been alot happier if this car has the LS9 power level stock though.

[hognutz]

Originally Posted by v8

Well said Hognutz, but I take offence to you calling me a troll.
I'm no troll and have been on this forum for years. I was just getting tired of everyone spreading false information. I didn't mind everyone saying how great the LSA is, but don't lie and say that one has never blown up. Especially the members who posted here and said they have not heard of one blowing up when in fact they were posters in the blow up thread.
They just got caught with their hand in the cookie jar....

The LSA is a great engine and I love the pushrod design, simple and compact, and interesting to talk about, but I just don't care for the fanboyism.

I apologise if I offended anyone, but when people say things that are not true its just not right as there are many people who come to this forum for information and we should try to put out accurate information. How do we look to others if we sound like we don't know what we are talking about?

Also the thread I dug up was from Feb/March 2013. It was about 1 year old as its now March 2014, so respectfully I don't think that qualifies as 1.5 years as you put it.

To me what's the big deal, if an engine fails when its modified so what? What bothered me it wasn't even a modified LSA that exploded, it was a stock one.

We are all car nuts and are on this forum for one reason or another. My reason is I like to learn and enjoy conversing with others. I also would like to think that when I read information here its as accurate as can be.

You have been around too for a while Hognuts, I'm not mad but actually dissapointed you called me a troll. I didn't expect that from you.

I wasn't talking to you I was talking about the 1 post guy that dug the thread up. sorry for the confusion.

[kevint]

Originally Posted by v8

Well said Hognutz, but I take offence to you calling me a troll.
I'm no troll and have been on this forum for years. I was just getting tired of everyone spreading false information. I didn't mind everyone saying how great the LSA is, but don't lie and say that one has never blown up. Especially the members who posted here and said they have not heard of one blowing up when in fact they were posters in the blow up thread.
They just got caught with their hand in the cookie jar....

The LSA is a great engine and I love the pushrod design, simple and compact, and interesting to talk about, but I just don't care for the fanboyism.

I apologise if I offended anyone, but when people say things that are not true its just not right as there are many people who come to this forum for information and we should try to put out accurate information. How do we look to others if we sound like we don't know what we are talking about?

Also the thread I dug up was from Feb/March 2013. It was about 1 year old as its now March 2014, so respectfully I don't think that qualifies as 1.5 years as you put it.

To me what's the big deal, if an engine fails when its modified so what? What bothered me it wasn't even a modified LSA that exploded, it was a stock one.

We are all car nuts and are on this forum for one reason or another. My reason is I like to learn and enjoy conversing with others. I also would like to think that when I read information here its as accurate as can be.

You have been around too for a while Hognuts, I'm not mad but actually dissapointed you called me a troll. I didn't expect that from you.

Don't apologize. This forum collectively cries when a car gets wet.

You dropped solid knowledge on a common manufacturing process that was lacking in a thread that needed it.

[v8]

The one I was referring to was most likely just a flaw as you said. I don't think there is a design issue. And yes I have heard about some bad clutches on the GT500's. I think the 14's are better but I don't know for sure so I can't say.

My point was there was an unmodified LSA that blew up, and so far we have no proof of a stock GT500 blowing up. Does that mean it didn't happen, no, like you said there is a lot that goes unreported. Both engines are great and I don't want to debate the two because thats not what this thread is about.

And in my quote that keeps getting quoted "Never heard of an unmodified 5.8 going bad" and then I'm sent a link to a modified 5.8 that goes bad and am told "here you go" what is that? If it would have been a link to an unmodified 5.8, no problem, I would have apologized, but thats not what happened.

I have kept myself professional and not called anyone any names. I actually thought you were going to apologize for calling me a troll. You have been on Camaro5 for one more month that me so we are both pretty senior here.

There is nothing more to debate here, the original thread is "Any blown up ZL1 engines yet?" and I guess we have answered the question and its a YES.

[v8]

Just read your post Hognutz, I did think you were calling me a troll, but now I realize you were not. I am sorry for the confusion.

kevint, its called trying to be a good person, I don't think anyone cries, its just respect for one another, and we all have to try to get along or the who forum would turn bad, but thanks for your support