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patriotpa · 08-24-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Banshee

All you are doing is draining the old oil out, replacing the filter. There is absolutely NO conceivable reason an engine would magically increase HP afterwards.

There is no sensor or secret switch that recalibrates the engine after an oil change.

Methinks it's like adding a K&N air filter or those octane boosters and people saying they are running 1-2 second quicker ET's.

Yea....right!

...or a CAI

You are supposed to reset the oil life monitor after an oil change. What the software does when the oil life monitor is reset after X miles we do not know, but it could be written to do anything that is software controlled.

...your name wouldn't happen to be Thomas would it?

John 20:25 NKJV

Banshee · 08-25-2009, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patriotpa

...your name wouldn't happen to be Thomas would it?

John 20:25 NKJV

As a matter of fact, it really is...seriously!

And my uncle engineered the LSX series engines.. Again, seriously.

600hp-lpe · 09-05-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by smogintoo

WHEN I get my car I'm going to change the oil after 200 or 300 miles just to make sure none of those nasty shavings get a good chance to do any damage and then I'll switch to a good synthetic around 1500 miles.

Any metal fragments would be in the filter... 200 miles didn't even give the oil time to get warm yet. Sounds too early for me.

Stingr69 · 10-22-2009, 05:40 PM

I noticed more part throttle power after the oil change I did myself at about 2600 Miles on my LS-3. Mobil 1 5w-30 and a Mobil 1 filter. The factory fill could be something with a higher viscosity or a break-in additive but who knows.

If the new oil is less viscous than what was in there before, the oil pump would not be working as hard anymore so you could find an improvement in power.

FWIW.

-Mark.

ftshark · 10-23-2009, 08:48 AM

More power: was it the oil change, fuse pull, or the colder weather. It's a big conspiracy.

Stingr69 · 10-23-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ftshark

More power: was it the oil change, fuse pull, or the colder weather. It's a big conspiracy.

I'm with you there. I would not have typed it if I did not notice it myself. I don't know for sure but I am leaning toward the factory fill being different than what was in the owners manual. Break in additives or different viscosity could do it.

Maybe we can get a few new owners to "reset" the oil life system just BEFORE they change thier oil and do a quick road test to see if it is in the ECM or in the oil? Just a thought.

-Mark.

Banshee · 10-23-2009, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stingr69

I noticed more part throttle power after the oil change I did myself at about 2600 Miles on my LS-3. Mobil 1 5w-30 and a Mobil 1 filter. The factory fill could be something with a higher viscosity or a break-in additive but who knows.

If the new oil is less viscous than what was in there before, the oil pump would not be working as hard anymore so you could find an improvement in power.

FWIW.

-Mark.

There is a minuscule, negligible difference between any allowable grade mandated by GM for the LS3 (GM 4718M). If you were to put in the thickest oil allowable that provides wear, flow and pressure, you would maybe notice a "negligible" difference on a dyno, definately NOT a seat of the pants feel.

Will a thicker oil rob HP? Absolutely! But the thicker "mythical" break in oil must also provide protection. Does Mobil1 make a thicker oil with an additive package to fill the 2010 Camaro? Have asked, no answers.

If you build a loose tolerance motor, you could go to a 20w50 and maybe lose 8-10 hp over a 10w30. Nothing you would feel.

Now if you removed 75w90 factory fill from the crankcase of a 2010 Camaro would I believe your claims.

BTW, Sharks post was sarcastic.

Tigertrj · 10-23-2009, 05:15 PM

I changed mine at 3000 miles and its feels recharged better than ever!!!!!

Mr Smith · 10-23-2009, 05:30 PM

Folks be smokin crack round here..An oil change is not going to make your car faster. Just makes ya feel better...Kinda like washing it. I swear mines faster every time I wash and wax it...

tradosaurus · 10-24-2009, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Smith

Folks be smokin crack round here..An oil change is not going to make your car faster. Just makes ya feel better...Kinda like washing it. I swear mines faster every time I wash and wax it...

Yes, but woudn't smokin crack make you believe your car runs faster?

anthonybyram · 10-24-2009, 10:14 PM

Stingr69 · 10-28-2009, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banshee

There is a minuscule, negligible difference between any allowable grade mandated by GM for the LS3 (GM 4718M). If you were to put in the thickest oil allowable that provides wear, flow and pressure, you would maybe notice a "negligible" difference on a dyno, definately NOT a seat of the pants feel.

Will a thicker oil rob HP? Absolutely! But the thicker "mythical" break in oil must also provide protection. Does Mobil1 make a thicker oil with an additive package to fill the 2010 Camaro? Have asked, no answers.

If you build a loose tolerance motor, you could go to a 20w50 and maybe lose 8-10 hp over a 10w30. Nothing you would feel.

Now if you removed 75w90 factory fill from the crankcase of a 2010 Camaro would I believe your claims.

BTW, Sharks post was sarcastic.

General Motors sells an engine oil suppliment you can buy in the parts department that is specified for new engines to prevent excessive wear during break-in. I have not seen anyone say that GM uses that (or anything else for that matter) in the new Camaro engines but nobody said they do not. I have a bottle of GM EOS in the garage and can get you a part number if you want to learn more about it. This is a GM produced, new engine oil additive.

I was hearing the sarcastic tone in his post.

-Mark.

kikolosh · 04-29-2010, 02:44 PM

hi friends, Im new in this. Im from spain and i have a Camaro since last October. My car has now 10.500 kilometers, and i have neger changed the oil. I have the oil that the car brought when i bought it. Now, the oil level is in the minimum so i decided to buy a bottle of oil. When is the first time i must change the oil ?
Thanks

LWM · 04-29-2010, 11:53 PM

Welcome kikolosh. Have you checked your oil life indicator? This indicator should prompt you when nearing the oil change mileage. Perhaps if you are nearing 10% remaining life.....it is time to change the oil and filter. The Forum contains a wide berth of recommendations for first time oil changes (some as early as 250 miles) and some much up to 3000 miles. Each driver varies in driving conditions and environment. Your running out to 6500 miles is perhaps the longest that I have heard within my group of Camaro owners.

Good luck!

10-23-2009, 08:48 AM	#61
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kikolosh Drives: Camaro 2010 V6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: spain Posts: 28	hi friends, Im new in this. Im from spain and i have a Camaro since last October. My car has now 10.500 kilometers, and i have neger changed the oil. I have the oil that the car brought when i bought it. Now, the oil level is in the minimum so i decided to buy a bottle of oil. When is the first time i must change the oil ? Thanks

04-29-2010, 11:53 PM	#70
LWM Drives: #54 ZL 550 CGM Camaro 2SS/RS,GIF Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	Welcome kikolosh. Have you checked your oil life indicator? This indicator should prompt you when nearing the oil change mileage. Perhaps if you are nearing 10% remaining life.....it is time to change the oil and filter. The Forum contains a wide berth of recommendations for first time oil changes (some as early as 250 miles) and some much up to 3000 miles. Each driver varies in driving conditions and environment. Your running out to 6500 miles is perhaps the longest that I have heard within my group of Camaro owners. Good luck!