ZL1 - worst gas guzzling compact car.

[ChocoTaco369]

Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan

The size class for cars is based on interior passenger and cargo volumes as described below. The size class for trucks is defined by the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR), which is the weight of the vehicle and its carrying capacity. Fuel economy regulations do not apply to heavy-duty vehicles, so they are not tested. See Which Vehicles Are Tested for more information on these vehicles.

Vehicle Size Classes Used in the Fuel Economy Guide

CARS

Class Passenger & Cargo Volume (Cu. Ft.)

Two-Seaters Any (cars designed to seat only two adults)
Sedans
Minicompact < 85
Subcompact 85 to 99
Compact 100 to 109
Mid-Size 110 to 119
Large 120 or more
Station Wagons
Small < 130
Mid-Size 130 to 159
Large 160 or more

Negligible. This "definition" - which is in and of itself meaningless because it was created by people to serve a specific purpose - is entirely out of context. By that definition, the Camaro is in the same class as a Malibu. Is there any publication on Earth that would do a comparison between a Camaro and a Malibu and maintain any kind of credibility? Whether or not they are both "compacts" by government GVWR standards does not change the fact they are not in anything close to similar classes. Rating a ZL1 on fuel economy is silly because they were not engineered with fuel economy in mind and no one on Earth is buying them for their fuel efficiency. It is like me rating a pizza place's pizza by how many pets the owner has. Who cares?

[ZO6 Bryan]

It's not meaningless. Whether you like it or not this is the way they are classified by the EPA. The published article is entirely different. Typical media crap of sensationalism for a story. I see no mention of the other cars that scored just as bad in the article. I don't see them complaining about the Rolls-Royce Phantom which is the other worst "compact car". I'm sure the buyer of the Phantom could care less about the rating. And I don't give a rat's ass about it either. Typical media trying to stir crap up. Who cares?

[ZO6 Bryan]

And it's not out of context. This is exactly where they got their story from.

Quote:

2015 Least Fuel Efficient Cars
EPA Vehicle Class Vehicle Description Fuel Economy
Combined
Two-Seaters Bugatti Veyron, 16 cyl, 8.0 L, Auto (AM-S7) 10
Minicompacts Aston Martin DB9, 12 cyl, 5.9 L, Auto (S6) 15
Subcompacts Bentley Continental GT Convertible FFV, 12 cyl, 6.0 L, Auto (S8) 15†
Maserati GranTurismo Convertible, 8 cyl, 4.7 L, Auto (6) 15
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Coupe, 8 cyl, 6.2 L, Auto (7) 15
Compacts Chevrolet Camaro, 8 cyl, 6.2 L, Auto (S6) 14
Rolls-Royce Phantom Coupe, 12 cyl, 6.7 L, Auto (S8) 14
Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe, 12 cyl, 6.7 L, Auto (S8) 14
Midsize Bentley Mulsanne, 8 cyl, 6.8 L, Auto (S8) 13
Ferrari FF, 12 cyl, 6.3 L, Auto (AM7) 13
Ferrari FF with Stop-Start option, 12 cyl, 6.3 L, Auto (AM7) 13
Large Rolls-Royce Phantom, 12 cyl, 6.7 L, Auto (S8) 14
Rolls-Royce Phantom EWB, 12 cyl, 6.7 L, Auto (S8) 14
Small Station Wagons Infiniti QX50, 6 cyl, 3.7 L, Auto (S7) 20
Infiniti QX50 AWD, 6 cyl, 3.7 L, Auto (S7) 20
Midsize Station Wagons Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG S 4matic (Wagon), 8 cyl, 5.5 L, Auto (7) 18

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan

It's not meaningless. Whether you like it or not this is the way they are classified by the EPA. The published article is entirely different. Typical media crap of sensationalism for a story. I see no mention of the other cars that scored just as bad in the article. I don't see them complaining about the Rolls-Royce Phantom which is the other worst "compact car". I'm sure the buyer of the Phantom could care less about the rating. And I don't give a rat's ass about it either. Typical media trying to stir crap up. Who cares?

It's not meaningless because that it how they come up with the ZL1 owing the gas guzzler. I bet they go by class. If we were in a class closer to weight I bet we would have a lower tax.

[ZO6 Bryan]

Why didn't the article focus on the fact that there was only ONE U.S. car on the list? The big "3" should be proud that they only have one car on the list.

[Sven59]

I bet they tried different formulas for class calculation and this one generated the most revenue.

[Sven59]

They should go by this!

http://traveltips.usatoday.com/renta...de-107293.html

[ZO6 Bryan]

Originally Posted by Sven59

It's not meaningless because that it how they come up with the ZL1 owing the gas guzzler. I bet they go by class. If we were in a class closer to weight I bet we would have a lower tax.

It looks as if the gas guzzler tax is based entirely on mileage regardless of size.

http://www.epa.gov/fueleconomy/guzzler/420f12068.pdf

Tax Schedule
The IRS collects the tax directly from the manufacturer or importer of the vehicles. The following
table shows the gas guzzler tax rates which have been in effect since January 1, 1991. The
manufacturer or importer must pay this amount for each vehicle that doesn’t meet the minimum
fuel economy level of 22.5 mpg.

Combined fuel economy of:
Amount
at least 22.5 mpg No tax
at least 21.5, but less than 22.5 mpg $1000
at least 20.5, but less than 21.5 mpg $1300
at least 19.5, but less than 20.5 mpg $1700
at least 18.5, but less than 19.5 mpg $2100
at least 17.5, but less than 18.5 mpg $2600
at least 16.5, but less than 17.5 mpg $3000
at least 15.5, but less than 16.5 mpg $3700
at least 14.5, but less than 15.5 mpg $4500
at least 13.5, but less than 14.5 mpg $5400
at least 12.5, but less than 13.5 mpg $6400
less than 12.5 mpg $7700

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan

It looks as if the gas guzzler tax is based entirely on mileage regardless of size.

Tax Schedule
The IRS collects the tax directly from the manufacturer or importer of the vehicles. The following
table shows the gas guzzler tax rates which have been in effect since January 1, 1991. The
manufacturer or importer must pay this amount for each vehicle that doesn’t meet the minimum
fuel economy level of 22.5 mpg.

Combined fuel economy of:
Amount
at least 22.5 mpg No tax
at least 21.5, but less than 22.5 mpg $1000
at least 20.5, but less than 21.5 mpg $1300
at least 19.5, but less than 20.5 mpg $1700
at least 18.5, but less than 19.5 mpg $2100
at least 17.5, but less than 18.5 mpg $2600
at least 16.5, but less than 17.5 mpg $3000
at least 15.5, but less than 16.5 mpg $3700
at least 14.5, but less than 15.5 mpg $4500
at least 13.5, but less than 14.5 mpg $5400
at least 12.5, but less than 13.5 mpg $6400
less than 12.5 mpg $7700

That's much fairer if they do it that way, I could live with that. I still don't get the EPA classes, it must have got some beancounter a promotion.

[69ZLover]

"ZL1 - worst gas guzzling compact car"

LMAO The best $1,300 in guzzler tax I have spent in years! I'm hoping in Gen6 they have one that cost $2,600!

[Sven59]

Mine did.

[69ZLover]

Originally Posted by Sven59

Mine did.

OUCH! I thought it was a regular nation wide set blood money fee.

[Sven59]

The auto is $2600

[SSeniorMoment]

I wouldn't mind having a 2600# gas guzzler.