2011 Camaro Z28 v6 turbo vs superchared v8

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Blizzard

When it comes to making a choice between a supercharged V8 and a TTV6 I will pick the TT, but I understand the want for a V8 in a Z28, I would love it too, just not a big monster. A smaller, fuel efficient, autocross tuned V8 would be best in my mind, it would satisfy those who want a V8 but is still lighter and more suited for road racing, something large displacement engines are not built for.

Big monster? 376 ci is not big. 427 ci is big -well in the old Mark IV Big Blocks. The only time a Big Block didn't kill handling was in the ZL1, but that was a drag car and I've never seen nor heard of an article where it was put in something like a Z28, just for fun. I think it was said that ZL1 was about the same weight as an iron-headed 350. THAT'S BIG. Considering the LS1s weighed like 80 lbs. less than aluminum-headed LT1s, I don't see an LS3 as a monster, even if one adds another 100 pounds for a supercharger and all the ancillaries. Then it weighs just a bit more than LT1s from twelve years ago; that's not giving up too much mass. That's still comparable to DZ 302s to my understanding...

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Because you said "weight savings" If you were not comparing it to the SS what are you comparing it to? If you are comparing it to a stock V6 then I highly doubt there is any savings...... I would be willing to bet the Leno V6 actually weighs more then a stock LS.

Show me weights and I'll change my tune.

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

we are. . .

some people want a v6TT for certain reasons others want the V8 for theirs. and no one will back down on why they want what they want. you can argue so many different points on why it should be either. but in the end no matter who is right and who is wrong the performance vs price is what matters the most for the camaro. if the performance is low or equal to the SS and the price is high it won't sell but if the performance is out standing and the price is just low enough for people to afford it then they will sell like hot cakes.

No argument here! (as long as it has a V8, lol) j/k

Originally Posted by Gibby

I went for a ride in a Camaro a few weeks ago with a guy from the Camaro plant. He's a PR guy. He told me that the Z28 is getting the LS9. There is no confirmed date for prodution though.

***ears perk*** in disbelief

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

somethings not right on the weights, a 1SS & a 2SS weigh the same.

He stated "LS" (i.e. V6 model).

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

well there we have it guys. straight from the horses mouth. lol. don't we all wish.

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Who knows.... your buddy may be right!?!? But if he is right....the Z/28 will be one expensive Camaro and be out of the reach of most people!

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

I like mac want a Z/28 bad. In my case to fulfill a long over due dream. But I will NOT pay for an LS9 Camaro! NO WAY!

How in the WORLD would an LS9 Camaro not go for at least $60K? What - $20K+ for the engine; better driveline to cope with the torque, and all the coolers and crap so it won't melt to the pavement after a few laps. That's a nice dream though, IMHO.

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

even if it's priced around 45k? lol.

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

45k....

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Meh...then it would technically be an electric car...and by association, I must be against progress....so no; scratch that.

But seriously - me too

[chevy454]

Originally Posted by radz282003

Big monster? 376 ci is not big. 427 ci is big -well in the old Mark IV Big Blocks. The only time a Big Block didn't kill handling was in the ZL1, but that was a drag car and I've never seen nor heard of an article where it was put in something like a Z28, just for fun. I think it was said that ZL1 was about the same weight as an iron-headed 350. THAT'S BIG. Considering the LS1s weighed like 80 lbs. less than aluminum-headed LT1s, I don't see an LS3 as a monster, even if one adds another 100 pounds for a supercharger and all the ancillaries. Then it weighs just a bit more than LT1s from twelve years ago; that's not giving up too much mass. That's still comparable to DZ 302s to my understanding...

Just as an fyi, all of the '69 Yenko Camaros and 2 of the ZL1 Camaros got COPO 9737, which was the Z/28 wheels & suspension components...COPO 9737 also came on the '68 Yenko Camaros, as well as all '69 Yenko Chevelles and '70 Yenko Novas, and some COPO cars from other dealers were ordered with COPO 9737 as well.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by chevy454

Just as an fyi, all of the '69 Yenko Camaros and 2 of the ZL1 Camaros got COPO 9737, which was the Z/28 wheels & suspension components...COPO 9737 also came on the '68 Yenko Camaros, as well as all '69 Yenko Chevelles and '70 Yenko Novas, and some COPO cars from other dealers were ordered with COPO 9737 as well.

Ooo... Thanks!

Chuck

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Im not voting for either of them.... I want my Z/28 to be NA

BINGO!!!!!

[Captain Vlad]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Meh...then it would technically be an electric car...and by association, I must be against progress....so no; scratch that.

Wouldn't it be steam powered?

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Captain Vlad

Wouldn't it be steam powered?

Hybrid? Either way - I need internal combustion that connects to a transmission that direct power to a rear axle

[Captain Vlad]

But that rules out rockets...you're no fun!

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Captain Vlad

But that rules out rockets...you're no fun!

[zebra]

what about a turbine-powered one??

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by zebra

what about a turbine-powered one??

slow to accelerate. but...high top end?

[radz28]

That sounds like the original!

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by radz282003

Big monster? 376 ci is not big. 427 ci is big -well in the old Mark IV Big Blocks. The only time a Big Block didn't kill handling was in the ZL1, but that was a drag car and I've never seen nor heard of an article where it was put in something like a Z28, just for fun. I think it was said that ZL1 was about the same weight as an iron-headed 350. THAT'S BIG. Considering the LS1s weighed like 80 lbs. less than aluminum-headed LT1s, I don't see an LS3 as a monster, even if one adds another 100 pounds for a supercharger and all the ancillaries. Then it weighs just a bit more than LT1s from twelve years ago; that's not giving up too much mass. That's still comparable to DZ 302s to my understanding...



Show me weights and I'll change my tune.



No argument here! (as long as it has a V8, lol) j/k



***ears perk*** in disbelief



He stated "LS" (i.e. V6 model).








How in the WORLD would an LS9 Camaro not go for at least $60K? What - $20K+ for the engine; better driveline to cope with the torque, and all the coolers and crap so it won't melt to the pavement after a few laps. That's a nice dream though, IMHO.

You obviously did not look at the link.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

You obviously did not look at the link.

EH? Yeah - I quoted that the OP stated LS vs SS, not 1SS vs 2SS. The idea that I was trying to get across has been what weight savings does a Leno's SS have over a regular LS3 SS given about the same power? I know I can find the weights of the stock cars, but that doesn't address the weight savings of Leno vs. OEM SS.

What am I missing?