11-27-2009, 04:06 PM | #57 | |
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guess we can't have a heritage inspired z28 and make you happy. and if they just threw any old race motor in it it probably wouldn't meet emissions. but the 5.5L DI v-8 going in the C6R would be a nice motor. But again needs to meet reliability testing and emissions requirements. can I ask you how many of those aftermarket guys back a 100k mile waranty? and how many would? you sacrifice long term reliability with the added stress of FI. not saying the 3.6 TTv6 wouldn't meet their requirements. because quite frankly I don't know exactly what they require. |
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11-27-2009, 04:12 PM | #58 | |
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No one's claimed to be an expert. We're sharing ideas and opinions. Just because you have no appreciation, respect, and seemingly not a whole lot of knowledge of the sum of Z28 performance, doesn't mean the name deserves less than most of us want it to. Sure, there were learning curves; every car's had them. If you aren't interested in Z28, nor want to contribute in a respectful manor, please visit other forums in the community. Keep these comments to yourself...
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I've had my SS for 6 months now and still look forward everyday to take it for a spin. I could have even more fun with a Z28, lol.
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If someone pulled up with a new Z28 Auto, I doubt anyone would call it anything less than a real sports car.
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11-27-2009, 05:22 PM | #61 | |
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Okay this just pisses me off, lol, you're comparing Z28s throughout the years to other years of cars, yes of course your 91' Z28 is gonna get smoked by a newer car, the Z28 badge itself doesnt mean its instantly the best most amazing performance car that ever will be, every year its a competition and quickly your top of the line performance car will fall behind as cars update and change, and obviously you really dont know what you're talking about when it comes to Camaros because first you would know that "Z/28" only truely meant anything during the first generation of Camaro because that was the car they used to race in the Trans Am series, after 1969 "Z28" was just a trademark name and wasnt a huge performance car, in fact after the first generation SS was always a higher performance package than Z28 (where available). The second indication that you have no idea what youre talking about is the fact that you're talking down about the 302, yes it was a small block in a big block era but those big blocks averaged around 350hp each and that "tiny" 302 made over 425 horsepower when dynoed (dont even come back arguing 290hp wikipedia figures, we all know GM faked those numbers, again because of the Trans Am series) the 302 was a MUCH better race engine than anything else out there, its a higher revving engine than a big block, its more powerful than most big blocks of its day, and it weighs a hell of a lot less than any big block Your problem is you dont know your facts about these cars and you dont know how to compare cars, yes in their day any Z28 kicked major ass, in 1969 the Z/28 was one of the fastest cars on the road, in 89' it again was one of the fastest, in 2002 it was again one of the fastest, but in 2006 a 1973 Z28 will not be the fastest, and everyone realizes the power you can get out of a V6 they just opt not too because you can make more power out of the LS3, so whats the point, lol, i gaurentee you when the Z28 finally hits production it again will be one of the fastest, best performing cars on the road for 2011 or 2012 or whenever it is released...we'll stick to our day jobs when you do your homework before runnin your mouth off LOL |
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I already posted in a few threads about the Z/28. I might as well post again about this issue. The numbers have not been released, so it is kind of pointless to say, "well, it's going to smoke this car, and this car, and this car."
I can almost guarantee, that the Z/28 will be in the 450-500hp range, no more. I will go with the average of the two, and say the car will make around 475hp. Here is why. Chevy already has a top of the line car. That being the Corvette. The ZR1 makes what? 650hp? They won't give the ZR1 any competition, nor even close to it. Remember, the more power your car makes, the more expensive it is going to be, period. As is, I believe the Z/28 is the better of the two...(SS/Z/28)..may be wrong, who knows, so I am sure it will be quite a bit more expensive. I am saying for a 450-500hp Z/28, they will have it priced in the 40-45k range starting out, without any extras. If they were to go with 550hp, which I am 99.9% certain they won't, I can guarantee, they would have it in the 45-52k range. Again, to say that this car, that we really know nothing about, will beat another 550hp monster, is ridiculous. You guys should just wait and see what it will have to offer. |
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I just don't see it being a 500hp+ car, period. No real reason.
You could also look at past generations, it's not like the two ( ss & z/28 ) were 100hp+ in difference. They have always kept it relatively close. Maybe, that is why I feel the way I do. I will say that the benchmarks, were terrible ones. For one minute, let's throw out the price figure. Let's look strictly on the numbers. Horsepower numbers to be exact. SS vs GT. That is a sorry benchmark. 422hp vs 315ish or so. Not real exact on the numbers, as I do not have them in front of me. The SS better be a quicker car. Plain and simple. 107hp difference is quite a bit. Granted, I believe the SS is heavier by a little bit. Still though. Terrible benchmark. v6's vs v6's...this again is a joke. It's what? 304hp, to like 210hp? I think Chevy will stick to what they have done before, and that is keeping the numbers relatively close. |
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Id have to say the Z/28 would most likely push around 550hp, the GT500 already does and the concept LS7 Camaro made about that much on its NA engine, also i doubt the Z/28 would be able to keep up with the GT500 unless it was adequatly powered...even though the GT500 matches weight with the SS Camaro (which most people forget, lol) these are just my assumptions anyways, we're still speculating after all
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11-27-2009, 06:01 PM | #68 | |
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so to me your arguement is flawed on why it was a joke. for all you know the reason the chose the engine combinations they did was because they predicted ford would respond with a strong mustang within 2 years of the camaro's debut. |
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I don't know why you guys are so defensive about this topic lol. Let me guess, and in 5 years, they SS will be 900hp and the z/28 will be 1100hp? No. I am going to laugh when it comes out that the z/28 will have no more than 500hp.
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