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Old 08-03-2008, 01:07 AM   #57
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I'm not up on audio systems that much but Isn't 245W on the low end? My friend has the new challenger which has 520W and it's not that nice, in the bass department at least. maybe he has it set up wrong or something but if 520W isn't that good then whats 245? Maybe Muscle Master can elaborate since he has an SRT.
My shit thump, I love my Kicker system with the MyGiG, it kicks ass, the bass could be better but other than that, Clean & Clear sound, I would get a bigger Amp but the car note is kicking my ass, HAHA, get it , crack my self up sometimes

Now back to Boston Acoustics, I looking at the challys sound options on the dodge site, and it has two Boston Acoustic packages, 6 speakers, and 8 speakers, and the eight speaker package with two 8 inch subs has more watts, 368, what gives.........?
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Old 08-03-2008, 04:37 AM   #58
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My 2 12" Type E's were run by a 600W RMS amp. That's just the subs.
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Old 08-03-2008, 08:29 AM   #59
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I'm not up on audio systems that much but Isn't 245W on the low end? My friend has the new challenger which has 520W and it's not that nice, in the bass department at least. maybe he has it set up wrong or something but if 520W isn't that good then whats 245? Maybe Muscle Master can elaborate since he has an SRT.
Seems low to me. The Monsoon system that came in my 4th gen is 500W.But maybe its underated, like the HP.
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Old 08-03-2008, 08:52 AM   #60
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All the sounds systems look pretty technical to me. Did you forget the natural sound of the exhaust note that will be coming from your Camaro? In case you forgot what it'll sound like...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2...aro_172916.htm

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Old 08-03-2008, 12:00 PM   #61
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Seems low to me. The Monsoon system that came in my 4th gen is 500W.But maybe its underated, like the HP.
thats peak power WAYY overated, heres a quote from a thread on ls1tech.

http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=612644

98 through 99 came with an amp that was rated at 200-watts RMS. For 2000 and later models, GM changed their advertising to rate the very same amp at 500-watts. Some say this is a peak rating while others just consider it an ILS (If Lightning Strikes) rating. GM also claimed an RMS rating of 240-watts for this amp but the original 200-watt rating given to the amp is probably more accurate. In any case, there is no point is trying to upgrade a 98 or 99 to the "more powerful" 500-watt amp of later years - it's exactly the same amp.
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Old 08-05-2008, 01:10 PM   #62
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If the system is 245 watts RMS/Continuous and the speakers are very efficient, it should sound great. But I will probably add a lightweight single JL Audio 12" W7 with a clean 500RMS JL Audio sub amp with cleansweep. That way I will leave the system mostly stock with a single sub. JL Audio are the ultimate subs. One 12" won't add a bunch of weight in my trunk.
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Old 08-05-2008, 01:20 PM   #63
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Same here. I will add a single top of line JL Audio 12" with a 500-1000 watt amp and a 1 farad cap. That should be under 100# in the trunk. I don't want to add weight to a car thats already a little too heavy.
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Old 08-05-2008, 03:24 PM   #64
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245 watts doesnt sound like alot, but thats totally dependent on the fact if thats 245W RMS. Most audio companies try and lure you into believe your getting a more "powerful" speaker but giving you the "Max" wattage of the speaker. When you are buying speakers, you need to buy by the RMS. RMS is the maximum continous power you can apply to your speakers without causing damage, but that in itself can be misleading. Wattage totally depends upon your enclousure you have too.

For example, Infintity had subwoofers that where rated I believe 325W RMS, 1200W MAX. Ok, now if you put 1200W on the speaker, well you jsut wasted your money. After only a few minutes your speaker would melt the CA glue holding the coil to the former. Thus, locking the speaker up. Now applying the recommended wattage (325W) you would be fine, BOX DEPENDENT! IF you were to port it, you need less wattages because your speaker is moving mroe air. Thats why ported subs are louder than sealed. If you seal it, feel free to apply the entire RMS, port it? No, maybe 200W. Try it and you'll see.


kind of close but not really. RMS is continious power but not max continious. wattage does depend on the enclosure. and there is weight you have to consider, depending on the enclosure. And wattage isnt everthing you have to take ohms into consideration. There is alot you have to consider when putting together a system. Boston acoustic is a good speaker company but they have different levels so it depends on what speaker they are putting on this car.
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I only want the stock audio. I don't know, it depends on how good the military discount is. If its absolutely amazing, I might go for the upgraded audio.
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when you put a system together you have to think of ultimately what you want it to accomplish. take me for example, I listen to differnet kinds of music. from hip hop to rock and alot of differnet kinds in between. So I want my system to be able to play everything without distortion. Then I take the loudness into consideration. How loud do I want it to play. Next I decide how much space and weight I want to take up. If your going extreme you have to upgrade the VLotage system. And finally budget. For some there might be some compromising. For others different priorities. But these are the basics. Now for me id like to listen to the boston system before I make my decision and then after see what I will want to upgrade if anything. The guys at boston are very smart and I hope GM let them test in the car for optimum sound.
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kind of close but not really. RMS is continious power but not max continious. wattage does depend on the enclosure. and there is weight you have to consider, depending on the enclosure. And wattage isnt everthing you have to take ohms into consideration. There is alot you have to consider when putting together a system. Boston acoustic is a good speaker company but they have different levels so it depends on what speaker they are putting on this car.

When I feel like typing more I will tell you about my 30 years of audio/video experiance. No need to explain anything to me, thankyou.
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If the system is 245 watts RMS/Continuous and the speakers are very efficient, it should sound great. But I will probably add a lightweight single JL Audio 12" W7 with a clean 500RMS JL Audio sub amp with cleansweep. That way I will leave the system mostly stock with a single sub. JL Audio are the ultimate subs. One 12" won't add a bunch of weight in my trunk.
I defiantly would not say that JL has the best subs, there good but u can definatly get better for the price, brands like image dynamics, FI, Resonant engineering, SSA, Stereo Integrity, have products that are as good if not better than JL, especially if ur looking for SPL
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I really like the poineers setup in my cobalt ss, its nice. so the camaro should be even better thats gonna be sweet.
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If the system is 245 watts RMS/Continuous and the speakers are very efficient, it should sound great. But I will probably add a lightweight single JL Audio 12" W7 with a clean 500RMS JL Audio sub amp with cleansweep. That way I will leave the system mostly stock with a single sub. JL Audio are the ultimate subs. One 12" won't add a bunch of weight in my trunk.

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when you put a system together you have to think of ultimately what you want it to accomplish. take me for example, I listen to differnet kinds of music. from hip hop to rock and alot of differnet kinds in between. So I want my system to be able to play everything without distortion. Then I take the loudness into consideration. How loud do I want it to play. Next I decide how much space and weight I want to take up. If your going extreme you have to upgrade the VLotage system. And finally budget. For some there might be some compromising. For others different priorities. But these are the basics. Now for me id like to listen to the boston system before I make my decision and then after see what I will want to upgrade if anything. The guys at boston are very smart and I hope GM let them test in the car for optimum sound.
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When I feel like typing more I will tell you about my 30 years of audio/video experiance. No need to explain anything to me, thankyou.
Feel free to expand on anything these guys say, then. Seriously...there's a bunch here that don't know what's going on and will hear wattage, but haven't the slightest clue if that is continuous power or peak, etc. There will be a lot that don't know and learn from these. So, help out if you'd like! We'd LOVE your input!
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I defiantly would not say that JL has the best subs, there good but u can definatly get better for the price, brands like image dynamics, FI, Resonant engineering, SSA, Stereo Integrity, have products that are as good if not better than JL, especially if ur looking for SPL
Not disagreeing w/ you, but from many years experience w/ JL, they are worth EVERY penny. I've had a few subs before and they were NOTHING like JL.
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