2026 Camaro EV pic on MotorTrend mag cover

[jamala00]

Originally Posted by docwra

Again, yep, totally. I waited until I was happy that the tech/infrastructure/costs worked for me before biting the bullet and
Id advise everyone to do the same. EVs arent going to be right for everyone but as they develop they are becoming more realistic for more people - by contrast ICE is not developing, were stuck with what weve got.

Like I said, 5 years ago Id have rejected an EV out of hand, I now own one.
Id also reiterate I reckon the US is about 5 years behind the UK in the EV game, probably due to distances and cheap gas prices as much as anything else. I think we are a long way off (and you guys even further) being forced into EVs.

Would be interesting to come back and have the same discussion in a few years time, by then we will probably be having the same argument about Hydrogen though

Curious... What are your thoughts/reasons why he posted he had to take a HUGE loss dumping his Tesla? Will everyone that owns an EV have this same problem because there just is no used EV market. Nobody wants a used EV. Surprised?

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=618871

[Capricio]

Originally Posted by docwra

Dismissing EVs out of hand because of "what ifs" seems a bit shortsighted to me.

I want to see EVs compete in marketplace without subsidies and regulations killing off competing technologies. If it's so great, let it stand on its own. It'll never happen, but these obvious crutches lead skeptics like me to lack confidence in it.

Originally Posted by docwra

by contrast ICE is not developing, were stuck with what weve got.

ICE development has been focused on increasingly hard to meet emissions regulations, not competing against performance metrics or other ICE competitive offerings. VVT, DoD, DI... and emerging crank geometries, all became mainstream in the last 10-15 years. Experimental valve technologies were maturing. oh well, Al Gore made a movie saying we'd all be underwater now so we'll never find out, I guess.

Originally Posted by docwra

Like I said, 5 years ago Id have rejected an EV out of hand, I now own one.
Id also reiterate I reckon the US is about 5 years behind the UK in the EV game, probably due to distances and cheap gas prices as much as anything else. I think we are a long way off (and you guys even further) being forced into EVs.

Like I said, phased incremental approach, but it's happening, by force through regulating what the OEMs can offer us. I'm sure you know that gasoline could be much cheaper than it is, in europe and the US. That's a policy issue more than supply issue. All this talk of cheap KWH and expensive gasoline is just more regulatory/policy manipulation, not proof of the cost effectiveness of EVs. It's a poor argument, IMHO, at least under current conditions.

Originally Posted by docwra

Would be interesting to come back and have the same discussion in a few years time, by then we will probably be having the same argument about Hydrogen though

Unless you can crack Hydrogen atoms from H20 molecules and store them safely from home, like an EV charging station, i don't see much potential for widespread adoption. Too much energy making it, too hard to store and transport, too flammable, etc.

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

EVs just don’t stir my soul like a good internal combustion engine. I don’t care about a 1900 hp Rimac Nevera any more than a Tesla. My heart tells me they’re all the same gimmick underneath or varying capacities with differing sheetmetal. The engine is the soul of a car.