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Guys, out of respect for the OP please keep this thread on topic.

Kenne Bell is a great product but lets move this conversation to PM's or another thread.

Thanks,

[Adam@ST]

Originally Posted by thekid96

Thanks for the response Adam, 200whp on 91 and a canned tune is very impressive. Do you have a dyno sheet we can look at for the before and after numbers?
Do you have any real IAT numbers we can look at instead of an average value?
Do you believe a stock Camaro fuel system with a boost a pump will support 700whp on the street or track?

......pm sent.. Thank Adam

[familycaronROIDS!]

Check with Cunningham Motorsports they do great work and have Supercharged alot of cars. They are a smaller shop with a good rep. Lower over head means a lower price. Call speak with Ryne or Mike @ CMS in Lake Elsinore. They do all my work and I have no complaints. They have built some pretty evil Vette,Camaros,GTO's and some G8's.

[Ryne @ CMS]

i have used all the different blower setups on all different LS cars and motors.... i would run the TVS 2300, i have found the magnuson products to be on par with oem quality and therefore very reliable, plus the cosmetics of the kits looks very much OEM as well.... we are not a sponsor on this site yet, but we are soon going to become one so i wont advertise here quite yet.... but i will say this, no one besides Charlie at RPM Motors (another great shop) has tuned more lsx based cars and motors then us experience is crucial when your building and tuning cars, you dont want some guy to blow your motor with a canned tune looking for the biggest dyno number or best track time.... go on ls1tech , ls1gto, or corvetteforum look us up and see for yourself what we can do

[Ryne @ CMS]

Originally Posted by Adam@ST

Ok..to answer some of the questions..
Fuel system: The Kenne Bell kit comes with Billet fuel rails, a y-fuel block at the front just behind the snout support bracket.There is an extra port for all you guys wanting to sport a fuel pressure gauge .All the lines are high quality steel braided lines as well with anodized -an fittings.
The injectors are 60lb injectors, and will support 750 rwhp easily. The stock fuel pump is used with a Kenne Bell 17v Boosta Pump. For the guys who will be wanting more than 700 rwhp, Id rec using a 20v Race BAP.
Tuning: the kit will come with a pending 50 state CARB legal tune. Kenne Bell would never sell a kit that isnt carb legal. On custom tuning, I will be offering that service as well,as Kenne Bell WILL NOT provide tunes with modifed engines,cams ,or headers,etc.
IAT's: On average the IAT's are in the 115-125 degree range.

What was base dyno numbers..My car based at 335-342 rwhp stock.Thats 200 rwhp gain from one bolt on using 91 pump gas. JUST PLAIN SICK!!!! By the way, this is Kenne Bells canned tune.

What is the advantage of a Kenne Bell S/C over other PD Blower brands? This is a a question that has been asked a million times. Which blower is better? All the Blower companies will claim their S/C is the best. I dont concentrate on claims. I look at the facts and most of all,results from the track.

1: Kenne Bell uses a TRUE COLD AIR inlet system.The air filter is located in the front facia area , and actually give you a true ram air effect.No under hood heat issues here.

2: Kenne Bell uses a rear inlet design,which lets them stay away from a jack shaft design..which has belt slippage issues,among others. Start using overdrive crank pulleys, and 8 rib systems, and jack shaft bearings fail. Kenne Bell S/C's will never have this problem.

3: Kenne Bell makes the most power period from all the PD blowers on the market. I wouldnt want to buy a blower that was 80-90percent done at 8-9lbs of boost.Buy a blower that CAN grow with the car, NOT LIMIT the car. Bigger cubic inch engines, need bigger cubic inch blowers. The 2.8h will make over 23lbs maxed out, and if that isnt enough, we can go to a 3.6H blower. The sky is the limit with Kenne Bell.

4: Kenne Bell will not sit in the back seat, they are alway pushing the envelope to bring the consumer the most bang for the buck.The most powerful superchargers period, and comparably priced. Dont be decieved by tuners kits either.

5: Kenne Bell does hours upon hours of chasis dyno testing ,blower dyno testing, as well a flowbench testing on their products to back there claims with verifiable data. They also test competitors blower and products as well, and are are always willing to show the results.

6: Rotor design..Kenne Bells 4/6 rotor design is far superior to and 3/5 design. Where the 3/5 rotor design gives up and power starts falling off, the KB 4/6 design keeps pulling.

7: Kenne Bell takes less power to turn,which yields more power to the wheels.

8: Kenne Bell cases and rotorsand bearing design.Kenne Bell does not coat their rotors to make up clearance in the rotor pack. Kenne Bell uses a billet blower case, which doesnt flex like cast cases. This allows Kenne Bell to anodize the rotors and set a tighter rotor clearance for a more efficient blower and create more power with less
boost loss in the case. Another thing on the rotors..by coating a rotor, and not anodizing it, the coated rotor is soft aluminum under that coating and if and when the rotors touch (due to case flex and heat),or should a small piece of debis...say a small piece of silcone go through it, if will destroy the rotor pack or start the destruction process. Coated rotors are not forgiving.The Kenne Bell rotors on the other hand are forgiving. They are anodized makng them hard. A simple piece of sicone would just get spitout the other end.I have personally over-spun my blower 2000 rpms, and never destroyed a rotor.I have over spun competitor blowers though, with rotor damage. Then you have bearing design..Kenne Bells has a beter desing for mounting the bearing to rotor, and uses a bearing plate to support the rotors,instead of the case. By the way.. Im not saying you can start the car and drop a bag of screws in a KB blower and it will survive.
9:Kenne Bell didnt rush to market with this kit. They have been working it for over a year and wanted to have it refined before releasing it.They were'nt concerned with being the first kit out, just the best.
10: Did I mention they make the most power??I know I did, just saying there is more
that can be said, but I think I covered the most common.

11: Upgrades..Kenne Bell has made it a point to offer necassary upgrades where they are needed. In the Camaro's case, its a 110 mm t-body . I cant remeber exactley, but it flows between 1750 and 1825 cfm. The stock 90mm flows 890-900 cfm which will easily support 700 rwhp,but at this level the t-body is becoming a restriction. The t-body is an easy 40-50 rwhp upgrade at higher boost levels.

I want to finish by saying, I do not work for Kenne Bell. I am an independant shop,and a installing dealer for Kenne Bell. I use their products and support them because they are the best kits on the market, and make the most power of a PD blower hands down. I have worked with other brands on customer cars, and the other brands just dont compare.The Kenne Bell units always come out on TOP. I always tell my customers, Dont settle for 2nd best. Just save a little longer if you
need to, but the Kenne Bell is the way to go.
ST Motorsports is home to the fastest street driven 3v PD Blown s197 Mustang, PD Blown SRT8 Challenger, and soon the Camaro. All sporting Kenne Bell superchargers.

Thanks Adam

your on crack if you think a stock pump with a boost-a-pump with support 700rwhp..... the fuel demands of a positive displacement blower will far exceed the demands of a stock returnless fuel system with a boost-a-pump.... unless your running the car at 13.1 af which is piston melting af for that setup.... sorry to be so rude with my words...but that is a clear false advertising

[Adam@ST]

Originally Posted by Ryne @ CMS

your on crack if you think a stock pump with a boost-a-pump with support 700rwhp..... the fuel demands of a positive displacement blower will far exceed the demands of a stock returnless fuel system with a boost-a-pump.... unless your running the car at 13.1 af which is piston melting af for that setup.... sorry to be so rude with my words...but that is a clear false advertising

Rude indeed. The Kenne Bell LS3 Camaro has made 700+rwhp with a KB BAP and stock pump, as well as our L99 car has made 655 RWHP with a stock pump and KB BAP with a nice 11.8-12.1 a/f ratio. I dont intend or want a battle here, so I will follow up with a PM. I just wanted the readers to know the HP potential is true. Have a GREAT DAY, Adam

[Ryne @ CMS]

Originally Posted by Adam@ST

Rude indeed. The Kenne Bell LS3 Camaro has made 700+rwhp with a KB BAP and stock pump, as well as our L99 car has made 655 RWHP with a stock pump and KB BAP with a nice 11.8-12.1 a/f ratio. I dont intend or want a battle here, so I will follow up with a PM. I just wanted the readers to know the HP potential is true. Have a GREAT DAY, Adam

your running a pump gas 91 octane lsx motor @ 650+ rwhp at 12.1 af?? i hope your running methanol on top of that af.. now i can kind of see how you "might" be getting away with running just a BAP... but the that AF is dangerous especially with the IAT's a positive displacement blower see's,i am guessing you do not have a load bearing dyno (like a mustang, dynodynamics,dynomite, dyna-pak)... if you put any kind of real loadon that car like any real street car sees, guaranteed that thing will knock..... i am quite sure any experienced LSX tuner would agree with me...

[Adam@ST]

Maybe you should go read a little better Ryne. The pump gas is over at 505 on our Camaro, and its on race gas after that. The load is the track, where the car has made several 10 sec passes. The Kenne Bell car is rated at 590 on pump, and the 700 is on ms 109, and is stated on their website.. Do some research, and read some threads before you jump to conclusions.... Im done here. Have a swell day
Adam

[Ryne @ CMS]

Originally Posted by Adam@ST

Maybe you should go read a little better Ryne. The pump gas is over at 505 on our Camaro, and its on race gas after that. The load is the track, where the car has made several 10 sec passes. The Kenne Bell car is rated at 590 on pump, and the 700 is on ms 109, and is stated on their website.. Do some research, and read some threads before you jump to conclusions.... Im done here. Have a swell day
Adam

my apologies... still too lean IMO but its your car or customer's car, i would love to see timeslips