CLOSED new MT: '10 SS vs. '10 SRT vs. '11 GT

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

Most R/T's run ST's and see alot of gain because the R/T's cast, stock exhaust manifold is basically as good as an a**hole on my elbow.

Thanks for the info. I knew about the SRTs headers, but not much about the R/Ts exhaust system.

[DGthe3]

triple merge

[LSwon]

Originally Posted by shevyman

look at the z06 505hp. same motor in our car just tuned down. (well i think it is) so tune ours up to 505hp and lets hit the track.

LOL! Absolutely incorrect. The Z06 motor is a 427 with stuff like titanium connecting rods, heads with titanium valves, dry sump oiling system, stainless headers, etc..

I'm looking at a new daily, I've driven the 2010 Mustang, Camaro, Challenger as well as 335i coupe.

The styling of the Camaro stands out the most for sure, but I do have to agree that the visibility blows. It also feels huge compared to the much more nimble Mustang. The SRT8 is like a luxury car, it's sooo smooth but it feels way slower and the handling is beyond sloppy. The Mustang has the best driving characteristics and interior, but it felt like a dog compared to the Camaro.

From what I understand, the 2012 Mustang GT will be getting another power bump, as well as a 450hp+ N/A "BOSS edition". With that in mind we can most definitely expect Chevy to up the Camaro, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS!!!!

As for this review, it may seem biased being a Camaro owner, but as someone who doesn't own any of these cars I see a lot of truth in what they're saying. I expect a lot of reviews to be similar.

[Rollin Thunder]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

People wanted to compare the SRT8 to the other two, so thats what MT did. They did it based on relative HP ratings, not cost.

i know because people are morons. All the dodge fan boys got their panties in a wad. It aint moter trends fault. Its dodge for over pricing their pt cruiser interior challenger out of the modern muscle market.

[0-60n4.6]

Originally Posted by mrray13

In 2010, no. In 2011????? 2010 the Camaro is King, no doubt there. Since Ford is first out with the 11, the reign is still in dispute. When GM announces the 2011 MY, then we'll know!!

Now 2010 Camaro vs 2011 Mustang as equals? I think that downplays the Mustang a bit, but it's fairly close. Not much is going to be needed to maintain status quo IMO. But what GM does to maintain that remains to be seen.

oh come on guys gm is not going to do anything crazy in 2011 if they do anything at all which i doubt

[2SSARMY]

Before we stop arguing and flaming each other. Let's at least give some tribute to the big 3.

Good job GM/Ford/Chrysler on making awesome muscle cars. Thank god that we can finally compare our camaro's to mustangs again. Well done Ford. Let's see Chevy's answer. My guess is suspension + gearing. If that's true, then I think the 2011 camaro will have the slight advantage, unless dodge does something crazy and introduce the new 6.4L hemi

[2SSARMY]

Originally Posted by 0-60n4.6

oh come on guys gm is not going to do anything crazy in 2011 if they do anything at all which i doubt

Aggressive gearing + suspension tweak is all that is needed to give the 2011 Camaro the upper hand.

[mrray13]

Originally Posted by 0-60n4.6

oh come on guys gm is not going to do anything crazy in 2011 if they do anything at all which i doubt

Keep your fingers crossed, lol, so Mustang can be King for a year. Which is fine, all the back and forth is good for all involved!!

[assasinator]

Originally Posted by Unfair

I don't think that is what the thread maker is saying, but are you saying motortrend is lying?

its what all three cars ran on that day, at that track, at the DA. one after another. it was a test for all three. they didnt use published numbers.

[confuzed1]

you guys are somthing else....
go REWATCH the M/T 2010 stang/camaro/r/t test!!!!!! its the same thing!!! except the interior grips about the SS. wich, most people and OWNERS complain about visibility.
2010 test the gt had the STD brake package while the SS had the brembos....but now the gt ALSO has brembos and yall cry foul. the gt in 2010 had 3.73s as does 2011....again, you cry. would it be fair for the stang to run the 3.31s vs youre 3.45s??? you have more gear...thats not fair! GIMME A BREAK! then you cry the gt is lighter BY LESS THAN 300LBS!! you have 70 MORE CUBES. wich is faster in the qtr? 300lbs added OR 70hp??? doesnt take a genius to know that 70hp would be faster( or does it in camaro land?)
the stang outhandled the camaro in the last test also, the braking before was ONLY 3 FEET BEHIND THE SS WITH STOCK BRAKES! now its 4 FEET BETTER with the SAME BREMBOS YOU HAVE. the M/T test for the 2010 gt was 13.5 vs the SS 13.0, NOT A 12.9 !! it slowed to a 13.1, oh my, they musta been sandbagging the SS to slow it a whooping .10!! these ridiculus posts (most) you guys make, are the reason why i love picking on youre camaros. ive owned em all, they are ALL great cars, but the excuses you camaro guys make are truely pathetic.

btw, if the camaro was ALWYAYS a better car, why they stop production for 8yrs??? oh yea...because nobody was buying them.
im happy im driving an AMERICAN MADE CAR! not a GOVERNMENT OWNED, CANADIAN BUILT one! haha

[DeathChill]

Sure, some people make excuses or say stupid things (hey, read through the Mustang guy posts here about the 2010 model comparison; plenty of excuses there), but coming here and acting like a jackass is stupid.

How about you come and add to the conversation (though from your post it seems you can hardly spell or type)?

[2SSARMY]

Originally Posted by confuzed1

you guys are somthing else....
go REWATCH the M/T 2010 stang/camaro/r/t test!!!!!! its the same thing!!! except the interior grips about the SS. wich, most people and OWNERS complain about visibility.
2010 test the gt had the STD brake package while the SS had the brembos....but now the gt ALSO has brembos and yall cry foul. the gt in 2010 had 3.73s as does 2011....again, you cry. would it be fair for the stang to run the 3.31s vs youre 3.45s??? you have more gear...thats not fair! GIMME A BREAK! then you cry the gt is lighter BY LESS THAN 300LBS!! you have 70 MORE CUBES. wich is faster in the qtr? 300lbs added OR 70hp??? doesnt take a genius to know that 70hp would be faster( or does it in camaro land?)
the stang outhandled the camaro in the last test also, the braking before was ONLY 3 FEET BEHIND THE SS WITH STOCK BRAKES! now its 4 FEET BETTER with the SAME BREMBOS YOU HAVE. the M/T test for the 2010 gt was 13.5 vs the SS 13.0, NOT A 12.9 !! it slowed to a 13.1, oh my, they musta been sandbagging the SS to slow it a whooping .10!! these ridiculus posts (most) you guys make, are the reason why i love picking on youre camaros. ive owned em all, they are ALL great cars, but the excuses you camaro guys make are truely pathetic.

btw, if the camaro was ALWYAYS a better car, why they stop production for 8yrs??? oh yea...because nobody was buying them.
im happy im driving an AMERICAN MADE CAR! not a GOVERNMENT OWNED, CANADIAN BUILT one! haha

Too long to read. Your lack of structure and capitals makes me think it's not worth reading.

Funny how your 2010 American Built super mustang v8 super GT Alpha dog class gets its ass handed to it by the camaro v6

Now if you had a 2011 you could trash talk, but come on... you have a 300hp v8.

[lil_chef]

Originally Posted by 2SSARMY

Too long to read. Your lack of structure and capitals makes me think it's not worth reading.

Funny how your 2010 American Built super mustang v8 super GT Alpha dog class gets its ass handed to it by the camaro v6

Now if you had a 2011 you could trash talk, but come on... you have a 300hp v8.

please tell me your joking because reading his post was akin to getting raped in the eye.... because my 300hp v8 is a full second quicker to 60 and in the 1/4 than the v6 camaro and is right on the heels of the v8.

[2SSARMY]

Look down one post !