04-22-2020, 02:38 PM | #7015 | |
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Ford is likely going to drop a turbo V6 into the Ranger Raptor, so if GM is smart, they will do the same for the next ZR2. Would be a real shame if they didn't. Unless that 2.7 is some POS (I haven't read that) most people seem to really want the 2.7 in the mid-size trucks. It just makes sense. Who wouldn't want over 310 HP and 348TQ in a midsize with a 10 speed. Yes please.
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04-22-2020, 03:07 PM | #7016 |
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Colorado/Canyon often gets called a lifestyle vehicle.
So, a question: When has any turbo 4 succeeded for GM, other than as a way to make an appliance pill go down easier? |
04-22-2020, 05:36 PM | #7017 | |
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I would think the 2.0T was fairly successful when it debuted with the Solstice GXP and Skyline Redline. I would say the newer versions( such the one in the XT4) have been more lackluster though. |
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04-23-2020, 08:00 AM | #7018 |
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Yup, and the Cobalt SS (2009+)
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04-23-2020, 08:52 AM | #7019 |
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It is such a waste to rid the vette of such a great gear box. Sport cars and manuals have been a natural for so many years. As odd as this sounds coming from me (I have been an auto trans fan for a long time), the manual gear box will be sorely missed in the vette, especially Z06.
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04-23-2020, 09:13 AM | #7020 |
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The 2.0L turbo has taken a slightly more sedate profile, now that it is shared across the board with many GM models. It still can develop good power and torque, and it is still an amazing performer. The turbo was still blazing when it was introduced in Malibu in '13. It had some quality quirks the first year, but that stemmed from its owners using regular gas with it. The turbo engine requires premium. It is a silent but deadly pistol, in that it can get you into illegal speeds much faster than you'd realize it. The engine made cobalt SS a celebrity on the street, but sadly it went almost un-noticed in the Malibu and in current models. I'd say that its almost a secret weapon. No one would suspect that Malibu could be near lethal with its turbocharged engine. I would love to see GM develop the turbo installation on more powerplants.
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04-23-2020, 09:18 AM | #7021 | |
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I love that they are offering a DCT. I have experience with AMG, BMW M, Porsche PDK etc DCTs. Great transmissions, but they bore me after about 10 mins of driving and I end up leaving them in D and no longer using the paddles. That's why I own 3 manual cars, and will only buy manual sports cars. GM took the C8 off my want list with this decision.
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04-23-2020, 09:43 AM | #7022 | ||
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As far as the C8 only offering a DCT, I was salty at first, but I can stomach it now that I've heard that it is spot on and really performs. I'll be adding a C8 Z06 in the future.
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Have you driven a DCT? I highly suggest a lengthy test drive including city and back road driving before you commit.
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04-23-2020, 10:06 AM | #7024 | |
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04-23-2020, 11:22 AM | #7025 |
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I have to assume statistics. Take rates. But, if your statement on falsifying those rates is true......
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04-23-2020, 11:30 AM | #7026 | |
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I'm aware of the GXP Solstice, Redline Sky, Cobalt later SS. I don't think those cars lacked a following because of performance or weren't promoted. They were basically import fighters. Also the role of the CT4-V. I don't think that can be a wide spread role. There's a movie quote about magic. It goes roughly: It's not the secret, it's the trick you use it for. The Silverado L3B wasn't received well, and that connection can hurt the CT4. If they switch the Colorado/Canyon benchmark from Tacoma to Ranger. They may just re-inforce them as segment front-runners. GM doesn't really have the papa Henry/papa Toyoda effect in their favor. |
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04-23-2020, 11:44 AM | #7028 | |
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Either way, get used to it.
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