V6 gas mileage

[MagnumForceGB]

I had a huge post on how the LFX E39 Delphi ECU learned from the knock sensors and put the car into a low octane timing table. If any LFX guys want you feel the change, disconnect the knock sensor plug from either side, it will immediately go into the low octane mode.

[Mr. Stacy]

Originally Posted by MagnumForceGB

I had a huge post on how the LFX E39 Delphi ECU learned from the knock sensors and put the car into a low octane timing table. If any LFX guys want you feel the change, disconnect the knock sensor plug from either side, it will immediately go into the low octane mode.

What about my car, the LLT. Does it "de-tune" itself? I have a code scanner. So "KR" is knock resistance?

I wouldn't mind getting some better performance and I'll shut up about Octane bla bla because right now, gas is so cheap anyway.

I was aware the SS would re-tune itself based on Octane, but not the 6's. High Octane (or premium) is RECOMMEND for all SS's and REQUIRED for all "Z" models.

[MagnumForceGB]

Originally Posted by Mr. Stacy

What about my car, the LLT. Does it "de-tune" itself? I have a code scanner. So "KR" is knock resistance?

I wouldn't mind getting some better performance and I'll shut up about Octane bla bla because right now, gas is so cheap anyway.

I was aware the SS would re-tune itself based on Octane, but not the 6's. High Octane (or premium) is RECOMMEND for all SS's and REQUIRED for all "Z" models.

The LLT starts out with high octane and the knock sensors will remove timing (KR is Knock Retard) and only add timing after over 2 minutes of no knock.

If you have a scanner that can read the knock retard in real time, you can see how effective your gas is. Even though some people will swear otherwise, 10% ethanol gas allows more timing than normal. 100% gas might contain power but is kind of worthless if so much timing is being removed that when peak cylinder pressure is achieved the piston is halfway down. You want the peak cylinder pressure to be at 14 degrees after top dead center, that is when the rod will have the most mechanical advantage on the crank. Before that pressure will be wasted and you will lose power, after that you will lose power.

When I do my datalogs I put in the times for each 5 MPH and then see how long it took me to get from each increment, when the times no longer decrease that means I'm at the best timing for that condition.

[KROLIS]

4 months

[Mr. Stacy]

Originally Posted by MagnumForceGB

The LLT starts out with high octane and the knock sensors will remove timing (KR is Knock Retard) and only add timing after over 2 minutes of no knock.

If you have a scanner that can read the knock retard in real time, you can see how effective your gas is. Even though some people will swear otherwise, 10% ethanol gas allows more timing than normal. 100% gas might contain power but is kind of worthless if so much timing is being removed that when peak cylinder pressure is achieved the piston is halfway down. You want the peak cylinder pressure to be at 14 degrees after top dead center, that is when the rod will have the most mechanical advantage on the crank. Before that pressure will be wasted and you will lose power, after that you will lose power.

When I do my datalogs I put in the times for each 5 MPH and then see how long it took me to get from each increment, when the times no longer decrease that means I'm at the best timing for that condition.

I have Torque (app) and can't find KR. It does have "Timing Advance'. I'll go see what that says.

[MagnumForceGB]

Originally Posted by Mr. Stacy

I have Torque (app) and can't find KR. It does have "Timing Advance'. I'll go see what that says.

You have to go in settings and add the extra PID's, will be with the Pontiac group.

[Mr. Stacy]

Originally Posted by MagnumForceGB

You have to go in settings and add the extra PID's, will be with the Pontiac group.

OK, cool, I found it. Thanks!

[Mr. Stacy]

Well, I went for a drive and made sure to WOT a few times tonight while logging the KR and 5 other things. However the KR gauge never moved. Everything else was responsive.

The last two fill-ups have been 87.

Can't figure out why the Torque app will not email my logs, but I had a metered graph readout on the KR and it was 0 for the whole trip.

So, either it's not reading it, or there isn't any...

[MagnumForceGB]

What was the timing at WOT?

[Mr. Stacy]

Originally Posted by MagnumForceGB

What was the timing at WOT?

Here is the csv. Have to check what I have logging and add throttle position. Didn't see the KR at all so it must not be working.

How do you upload a csv?

[Mr. Stacy]

Here is three columns from the file
Timing Advance - Speed (GPS) and Engine Load (%)

-	0	-
0	0	-
0	0	-
0	0	-
0	0	0
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35	35.52356099	25.09803963
42	33.91859223	52.15686417
30.5	32.98020897	60
21	32.2184139	70.19608307
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15	30.02336008	52.15686417
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[MagnumForceGB]

Can't tell without seeing the RPM data, and it being a long WOT run, like 0-100 mph.

I see your idle timing is low though, reason why the engine heats up so fast.

[Mr. Stacy]

Originally Posted by MagnumForceGB

Can't tell without seeing the RPM data, and it being a long WOT run, like 0-100 mph.

I see your idle timing is low though, reason why the engine heats up so fast.

I might try another app. Torque doesn't seem to record the KR.

I have to get up to 100mph to see an effect?!

I'll record some data with RPM on my way home. Max about 70 something though.

[MagnumForceGB]

Originally Posted by Mr. Stacy

I might try another app. Torque doesn't seem to record the KR.

I have to get up to 100mph to see an effect?!

I'll record some data with RPM on my way home. Max about 70 something though.

Usually large changes in load or nice full redline will give the best results for how the engine likes the octane. When I get home I'll post the stock timing tables, but the vary depending on cam position.