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Old 09-17-2008, 05:15 PM   #757
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Z28, Z/28, Z/XXVIII, Z-28, Z/28 but instead of a hash mark make it a lightning bolt. Especially if they make it with an electric motor. The lightning bolt would signify electricity.

Leave the heritage stuff in the past. that way it stays original. Change the design with the times and think a little out side the box.
LOL! That's good!!! I just had a visual of the movie Cars
SS has changed so maybe Z28 needs to change too Well, I guess it's already changed a couple times...

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Are they being ungrateful or just expressing concern for wanting what they feel is an integral part of the Camaro in general? We already know you feel they are being ungrateful, I see it a different way than you, the Z/28 has meant something very special to me since 1967, I was finally able to buy a Z/28 in '69. I don't necessarily agree with what many other people want in a new Z/28 (such as 550 or 600 HP), but I would like to see a new 5th gen. Z/28 at some point and would like to see it follow the heritage of the original Z/28, outstanding handling package with a good high performance engine, a road course type of car that is streetable. It does not have to be the fastest car in a quarter mile, but it should handle the twisties. Am I upset that you do not agree with me or that others seem to be oriented towards sheer horsepower? No, we are after all only sharing our thoughts about what we each want. Buy a 2010 SS if that makes you happy, wait and see if a Z/28 appears if that makes you happy, buy a Mustang if that makes you happy, do watever you wish, but please be considerate to other's opinions while doing so.
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Jesus Christ dude. Did you not read the post that I wrote or the one that dragoneye wrote. Here I quoted them for you incase you missed them. Dude give it a rest. Stop causing this garden variety chaos. If you can’t stop antagonizing peoples thoughts and ideas then get the hell out of here and stop aggravating every one ells.

Second off learn how to spell or at least use spell check before you post your comments. I am just more straight and to the point than the moderators.
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Cool then bro. Peace is all I ask.

Thank you.
Now - back to the emblem (or whatever else related to the topic )
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Old 09-17-2008, 05:19 PM   #758
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If they happen to bring it out I would like to see it badged like the 69. Other than that I'd like to see something OriGiNaL!
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Old 09-18-2008, 01:09 PM   #759
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I hear everyone talking about this super charged z28 and its eating me up inside..to my knowledge the ss has always been the top of the line camaro..so why in the world would the Z28 now be the top end one...I could be wrong but will someone please enlighten me
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Old 09-18-2008, 02:33 PM   #760
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Well, no one knows for sure what it's going to be either way. Unfortunately, there's nothing to enlighten anyone with since Z28 is known to exist, and known with much certainty that it is likely to come back, but we don't know what form.
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Old 09-18-2008, 02:41 PM   #761
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I hear everyone talking about this super charged z28 and its eating me up inside..to my knowledge the ss has always been the top of the line camaro..so why in the world would the Z28 now be the top end one...I could be wrong but will someone please enlighten me
I'll say it again , the original Z28 in 1967 to 69 was designed for Trans AM racing so it was superior to the SS ,better handeling due to upgraded suspension , lighter with a 302 small block , and it even had disc brakes in the front with 4 wheel disc as a option in 69. It was basically a RACE CAR FOR THE STREETS, a friend of mine owns a original and let me tell you that they are very expensive collector cars now. The SS was merely a straight line shooter , click on the link to learn more of this LEGENDhttp://auto.howstuffworks.com/1967-1...amaro-z-28.htm

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Old 09-18-2008, 03:01 PM   #762
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I like straight lines....my car does too...
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Old 09-18-2008, 03:18 PM   #763
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Hey there every one. I don’t want any one to get there hopes up here. I stumbled across a post on here yesterday and had to save it. I can’t quote it sense I can’t remember where I found it. But the user handle is connected with it. Plus something I thought up, just to see what people think.

My question: As far a being fuel efficient. How do you think every one would react if Chevrolet made an engine that was an electric twin turbo combustion engine that ran off of ethanol 96 and constantly recharged its own power supply?

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I was told by a person who works with the show and display folks at GM about 6 months ago during a show, that the production convertible was stunning in person. He also said that the high horsepower version of the camaro would be coming out a little after the launch of the convertible and that the power level was about 525 hp. He also said that due to the pending cafe changes that these high powered cars would not be offered for a very long production run. This guy seemed to be a reliable source especially when he said that he had sat in on a meeting about the camaro. He also told me about the billet gas cap being offered way before it was released by gm or shown in print anywhere.

I'am not saying it is fact, but just that it could still be possible.

If gm offered a lsa 6.2 thru gmg or slp, would this be counted under gm's cafe or be counted as a aftermarket tuner exemption or something? Anyone know how this would work?
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I like straight lines....my car does too...
whats the matter, does it get a little squirley when you hit the loud peddle?

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My question: As far a being fuel efficient. How do you think every one would react if Chevrolet made an engine that was an electric twin turbo combustion engine that ran off of ethanol 96 and constantly recharged its own power supply?
Electric drives for turbos would provide little boost and suck a lot of juice. The turbo would get its power from the battery which is charged by the alternator. The efficiency of the conversion of mechanical power to electrical power to mechanical power is quite low. Something around 30% at best, to drive a 15 hp air pump (which is what a turbo is) it would require at least 50 hp from the engine. A mechanically driven supercharger is a much more efficient system -nearly all the mechanical energy from the engine is used by the SC, and an exhaust driven turbo is even more efficient because it uses exhaust gasses that are otherwise wasted.
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Electric drives for turbos would provide little boost and suck a lot of juice. The turbo would get its power from the battery which is charged by the alternator. The efficiency of the conversion of mechanical power to electrical power to mechanical power is quite low. Something around 30% at best, to drive a 15 hp air pump (which is what a turbo is) it would require at least 50 hp from the engine. A mechanically driven supercharger is a much more efficient system -nearly all the mechanical energy from the engine is used by the SC, and an exhaust driven turbo is even more efficient because it uses exhaust gasses that are otherwise wasted.
Meh... I'll pay more for my petrol
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Old 09-18-2008, 04:56 PM   #767
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You can laugh all you want bro...I'll do what I want with my car!
I agree. Buy an SS w/ the LS3, buy the same supercharger as is on the CTS-v, and wala, for all intensive purposes it is the purported z28, that has been hyped on here and all throughout the car world. If it is made, the blower should be the same as the one the potential z28 gets. I know the internals of the motor are different, but that just means you can only up the boost so much on the LS3, it still should take 11lbs w/ no problem.

I used to have a 96 Trans Am. I wanted the Ram Air, so I bought the hood and air box from SLP, who by the way made the OEM Pontiac hood and airbox. However it was half the price. Same part...Half the price. Guess what, I had the audacity to put the Ram Air lettering on the hood!!!

So I say, you put that blower on your SS, I would be all for you adding the z28 badge....
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yay for ricers. guaranteed that the much "hyped" supercharged Z28 you are referring to would have more to it then the supercharger. and the car you described does not deserve the badge. but like I said do what you want and see how many people laugh at you and call you a ricer.
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Old 09-18-2008, 05:25 PM   #769
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Dude he could have a pair of old man purple b@ll$ hanging out of his car but it is his car, to do with as he pleases. Just like there was some one on here talking about putting a neon light in the front mail slot on there SS. But to each his own.
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Dude he could have a pair of old man purple b@ll$ hanging out of his car but it is his car, to do with as he pleases. Just like there was some one on here talking about putting a neon light in the front mail slot on there SS. But to each his own.
slapping Z28 badges on a car just because it has a supercharger on it is like slapping cobra/GTR/GT500 emblems on something because it has a supercharger on it. you get laughed at. believe me I've seen a lot of guys laugh at the mustang guys for having emblems that don't belong to a car even capable of performing what it should. and everyone should know that GM would put a lot more research (and probably has) into suspension and drivetrain then just slapping a badge on it. and like I said before do it but expect to get laughed at.
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