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AKA-22 · 06-13-2013, 07:29 AM

Ready to ship ?? wow! most Companies take months sometimes years in R+D before releasing a product...it sound like your rushing it... looks like a train wreck ready to happen. it will be very interesting to see how many guinea pigs you get to do this experiment.

The Stig · 06-13-2013, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA-22

Ready to ship ?? wow! most Companies take months sometimes years in R+D before releasing a product...it sound like your rushing it... looks like a train wreck ready to happen. it will be very interesting to see how many guinea pigs you get to do this experiment.

I wouldn't say he's rushing it. He made the OP in January of 2012, and he'd already been running the lights on his personal car. He's spent over a year trying to find a way to mass produce a design/concept he already created.

yotaman96 · 06-13-2013, 07:52 AM

Where is this hate on Tony coming from? He has been working on this and testing for quite awhile to make sure he has a great product. Tony has been very open with progress and issues. Many people have seen his prototypes in person.

dorfmac · 06-13-2013, 07:58 AM

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Where do you see that?

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Originally Posted by sjmautoprod

Yes, please do tell!

I'm referencing the pics in the OP. If you look at them, particularly the lit part of the "afterburners", you can see that the outer edge is uneven, and where those uneven parts line up, you can see a thin line going from the outside in. I'm having a difficult time explaining, but I at least think it's pretty obvious when looking at the pics?

AKA-22 · 06-13-2013, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sjmautoprod

Finally got to the bottom of the fixture issue and new ones will be run on Monday!

Looks like multiple file-format conversions tweaked the geometry enough to be a problem.

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Originally Posted by The Stig

I wouldn't say he's rushing it. He made the OP in January of 2012, and he'd already been running the lights on his personal car. He's spent over a year trying to find a way to mass produce a design/concept he already created.

just like he said it seems like a daily event that something is a problem..when he gets these done they need to be tested for a least 6 months to insure quality.... anything else would be rushing it....

The Stig · 06-13-2013, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dorfmac

I'm referencing the pics in the OP. If you look at them, particularly the lit part of the "afterburners", you can see that the outer edge is uneven, and where those uneven parts line up, you can see a thin line going from the outside in. I'm having a difficult time explaining, but I at least think it's pretty obvious when looking at the pics?

Which pic are you talking about?

This one?

or this one?

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Originally Posted by AKA-22

just like he said it seems like a daily event that something is a problem..when he gets these done they need to be tested for a least 6 months to insure quality.... anything else would be rushing it....

I mean I don't know all the details about what problems Tony's running into, but from what I can tell it seems like the issues are more on getting parts/materials than the actual lights. But you're right, prototype testing will probably need to be done. That being said - I'm sure members' would fight over the chance to have one of his prototypes.

dorfmac · 06-13-2013, 10:27 AM

In the first pic mentioned, specifically. You can also see it in the bottom pic. It looks like the afterburner light is pieced together. The bottom of the ring of light is not smooth, and then you can actually see what seem to be "pieces" of light. I'm not going crazy, am I?

sjmautoprod · 06-13-2013, 10:32 AM

Maybe you are referring to the flutes in the outer portion? Four channels that run front to back. If so, these mirror the same features found in the headlights and DRL's.

Rangore · 06-13-2013, 10:42 AM

What's the latest update? These look dang good imo!

DarkneSS · 06-13-2013, 10:59 AM

Yo if you don't have a deposit on these, step out of the thread. These aren't rushed he's obviously taking his time and making sure they are proper before shipping. He also hasn't given a specific date so you really can't be mad.

SSSoon · 06-13-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkneSS

Yo if you don't have a deposit on these, step out of the thread. These aren't rushed he's obviously taking his time and making sure they are proper before shipping. He also hasn't given a specific date so you really can't be mad.

A Pirate · 06-15-2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA-22

it will be very interesting to see how many guinea pigs you get to do this experiment.

See the list in post #1.
I am pig #7, and glad to be in on this.
I just know that Tony wants to have us decide on options like flicker, so here's my best answer based on what we've seen so far - If the flicker has any point in time where it goes dark, I'll skip it and go simple. IMHO, when the tails go dark, suddenly it doesn't look like afterburners any more, it looks like a ditzy girl randomly blinking her eyes.

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Originally Posted by dorfmac

It looks like the afterburner light is pieced together. The bottom of the ring of light is not smooth, and then you can actually see what seem to be "pieces" of light. I'm not going crazy, am I?

Not sure in real life whether you can see this detail, but it does seem to be better to have the outer diffuser be irregular rather than smooth. A real afterburner WOULD have "pieces" of light - it would not be perfect. Turn on a gas stove burner - check out the pieces of light as it flickers and burns. Tony's statement that he modeled it after the fluting in the DRL/fogs makes sense, too.

sjmautoprod · 06-16-2013, 10:43 AM

Well, the replacement fixtures were bad in a different way.

Going to assemble one set using what we have to see how everything lines up. I really don't want to have to wait another week to finish this, but, if it's not right...

DarkneSS · 06-16-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sjmautoprod

Well, the replacement fixtures were bad in a different way.

Going to assemble one set using what we have to see how everything lines up. I really don't want to have to wait another week to finish this, but, if it's not right...

Take your time Tony, you don't want to send something out to all of us just to have us turn around and have to send them back. This product looks sick and if its like the pictures in person, you will make some nice $ after this initial run.

I also did just buy a 2SS LOL so I'm down with waiting another month or so.

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dorfmac www.macsautodetail.com Drives: 2010 2LT/RS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 1,894 View My Garage	In the first pic mentioned, specifically. You can also see it in the bottom pic. It looks like the afterburner light is pieced together. The bottom of the ring of light is not smooth, and then you can actually see what seem to be "pieces" of light. I'm not going crazy, am I?

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sjmautoprod Drives: '16 2SS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 2,271	Maybe you are referring to the flutes in the outer portion? Four channels that run front to back. If so, these mirror the same features found in the headlights and DRL's.

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sjmautoprod Drives: '16 2SS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 2,271	Well, the replacement fixtures were bad in a different way. Going to assemble one set using what we have to see how everything lines up. I really don't want to have to wait another week to finish this, but, if it's not right...